Score them or not?
If the ref deosn't call it, it's not technically a foul and it's done damage but do you reward cheating?
I have to admit my approach is less than 100% consistent. Thoughts?
Foul blows the ref doesn't see
Sat, 2021-08-28 09:05
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Foul blows the ref doesn't see
I don’t dock a fighter if the ref doesn’t, same with not negating a Knockdown call made by a ref, or scoring a knockdown when the ref didn’t.
No limits? Low blows, rabbit punches, elbows, headbutts; all in?
That's sport for you pal, it's not always fair, but it goes down how the referee calls it. The answer is, what they've started doing in some US states, and that's giving the referee the chance to watch the replay and reconsider, Pennsylvania was the first state I saw allow it, that was for Gvozdyk vs Beterbiev, it's sometimes hard to tell if a knock down is legitimate, if a shot is low etc, but there are times when the referee made an obvious error, and the error is potenitally crucial to the outcome, Whyte vs Parker is a good example, the fight would have been a draw if the rest of the fight had been the same and the referee had the chance to watch the replay and reconsider, because it wasn't a tough call.
Fair play - I do score them but it can also be a little mood dependent on how strict I am, espcially if the fight is overly dirty and unpoliced.
Agree on the fix but only for massive decisions, like what happened to Andrew Moloney (missed opportunity). I don't think it would work in a Lomachenko Salido type situation because it would make the fight too stop start (as football is finding out) and also suck a little of the atmosphere out (the crowd are less likely to cheer a spontaneous highlight if there is a chance it will be rescinded in a minute).
I remember Wladimir Klitschko's head-buts used on Tyson Fury during a clinch that the ref ignored/didn't see. Fury even glanced at him briefly to see if he noticed, but continued fighting anyway. A lot of boxers would've complained. And he still beat him while pulling up his shorts half the time lol
and Fury was the one who lost a point :-) Conceicao Valdez is a similar, more recent example
Shots behind the back of the head have to be taken seriously, but Klitschko should have lost a point if anything, it wasn't Fury's fault he turned his back.
Agree. And Valdez's punch to the back of Conceicao's head was much worse than the one he retaliated to.
Not heard anyone else say it but I thought the second time Wilder knocked Fury down on Saturday looked like a punch to the back of the head as well. Interested to hear what you thought of that one?
It was definitely behind the ear, it's hard to see clearly, but Fury was still hurt from the first shot, the last shot knocked him over, but Fury was already on unsteady legs, I think he let himself go down, took his time to get up, which was very smart, but I think a knock down was the right call.
Just found this forum. Hello all.
This is almost an impossible question to answer. Boxing has always been a Rather corrupt sport not do kuch now as in the past with everything going on today but. Hiw can one truly.
I know refe i woukd trust more over the other. Id trust mills lane over say richered steel.
Lane was a judge in the justice system as well as a boxing ref and really called things like they are but. Interesting question.
Being new to tue forums foes every9ne get together on fight night and compare their scoreacards?
Hello Latverian (is your name something to do with Latvia?)
You didn't actually answer if you score them yourself or not?
Not me but people certainly get together on fight night, just score a fight on the appropriate fight page and comment as you like.
Thanks the welcome guys.
Yes i score my own fights when i watch them. Pen laper napkin if im out at a bar. I dont score every one i watch though. Deoends on ny interest in the fight.
No. Latveria is the home land of dr.doom from marvel comic books
:-) The Mairis Briedis of Marvel
Hello. Good to have you on the site. Unfortunately, boxing has a history of corruption, most promoters aren't as bad as Don King, but it's still a dog eat dog business, I think a lot of referees have biases in the ring, corrupt judging is a problem, especially in the UK. We can do, if it's a big enough fight that a lot of us watch it live, we often have a discussion in the following week.