Mayhem: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Marcos Maidana II Scorecard by mike25


scorecard by MIKE25
Round
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Total
FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
9
116
MARCOS MAIDANA
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
8
9
10
111

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Champion97's picture

Do you agree that Maidana did really well both times and was one of Mayweather's toughest opponents? I think this fight was a lot harder for Floyd than the Pacquiao fight.

I agree that Maidana was one of Mayweathers toughest opponents. First I would say Castillo, then Maidana, then Cotto. I was thinking that Maidana gave Mayweather a harder fight then Pacquiao did.

Champion97's picture

Yeah maybe, for two rounds it looked like Mosley was going to be a nightmare for Mosley, but the last 10 makes it hard to put that fight up there. Yes I think Cotto have him a lot of trouble, that eighth round, broken nose in three places, and Castillo, the first fight could have gone either way, I think Mayweather won, but you had it a draw? I think De La Hoya gave Mayweather a lot of problems, won 4 or 5 rounds.

The numbers for Mayweather's fight against Pacquiao, and Mayweather's fights against Maidana, aren't that different, but the difference is, every round Mayweather won against Maidana, and he did win 8 in both fights in my opinion, he was made to dog deep to win, Maidana brought taht out of Mayweather, and use up what he had in the tank, Mayweather had much more left in the tank after the Pacquiao fight, and unlike Maidana, Pacquiao was only able to really make Mayweather unable to get the better of him for 1 or 2 rounds, rounds 9 and 10 could have gone either way but that was through Mayweather not taking any risks, not working harder than he needs to, not worrying about numbers, and taking his foot off the gas, had he pushed himself as hard as he did against Maidana, I think 118-110 would have been the best for Pacquiao not the worst, and 119-109 would be a fair score. I still think 116-112 might have been slightly over generous, maybe not, but that was definitely his absolute lot. The Pacquiao fight was when I really started to respect Mayweather as a fighter, to the extent that I do now. Now that he's lost I can say it, Pacquiao is a disgrace, and I hope one day, the truth comes out about the whole Mayweather vs Pacquiao situation.

I still have to watch the Mosley fight, but I heard that the first two rounds were good for Mosley then Mayweather made adjustments and swept the next 10. I had Castillo winning by 2 points. I also think that Judah challenged Mayweather to. I saw the Dela Hoya fight was a split decision and I think it's dishonest to have it like that then people say that he got robbed vs Mayweather when he really didn't. I think he won like 5 rounds max when I gave him 4.

I see what you mean. Maidana won the same amount of rounds as Pacquiao and Maidana made Mayweather work harder and dig deeper than Pacquiao did. I think Pacquiao had his moments in the fight but they didn't compare to Maidana's good moments. Also, this is a question I have for you if it comes out that Pacquiao wasn't cheating and there's proof to back it up would that change your opinion as a fighter?

Champion97's picture

Yeah that's pretty much what happened, the first could have gone either way, the second was Mosley's, the rest were Mayweather's, it was 10-2, or 11-1. Oh ok, that's a good score, I think that was unfairly scored, Mayweather won, but not by that much, I spilt decision would have been good to see. Yeah well remembered, I had that 8-4, Mayweather won wide, but yeah he have him a tough fight, legitimately, he scored a knockdown, it wasn't counted, unfortunately for Judah, Mayweather wasn't hurt, it was a flash knock down, but nevertheless. You are exactly right about that, like Frampton vs Santa Cruz II, anyone's fight after 8, 9-11, the winner takes over, the fight closes with a debatable round, 7-5/8-4, clear winner, competitive, arguably close fight.

Yeah much, no not at all, I mean, compare to the one occasion in each fight when Maidana hurt Mayweather, Mayweather was able to recover from Pacquiao hurting him much more easily. That's a fair question. Yes, absolutely, but it wouldn't take away 100% of my dislike for him as a fighter. I'm 98% sure he's unclean, not 99.9%, not as sure as I am that Andre Ward's win over Sergey Kovalev was clean, but basically, he can either prove his innocence, or confess, if he does neither, then I don't respect him as a person.

Would you like to read my prediction analysis for Mayweather vs McGregor? I think you will find it interesting, I have a theory on what McGregor is planning.

A split decision for Mayweather vs Castillo would've been nice. I think I had Mayweather beating Judah 8-4 as well, and I did think he was knocked down but the refs didn't call it. I think that the one time he did get knocked down it shouldn't of counted and when he actually did get knocked down the ref didn't call it.

Ok I get what you're saying. But that's fair on the Pacquiao situation, you don't have to like him as a fighter. I also think the truth will come out eventually, with either a trainer or one of Pacquaios team members adressing it, a failed drug test in the past that got pushed to the side, or even Pacquaio coming out and telling the truth on whether he did it or not. It might not be coming out now but in years to come I think we might know the truth.

I did and agreed with pretty much everything you said. So you think there will be dirty tactics on Mcgregors end? I think it's in their contract that if Mcgregor kicks Mayweather he will be dq'd. Also have you watched anything on Mcgregor since the fight was made?

Champion97's picture

Yeah it's funny that.

I hope so.

Yes, I think his aim will ultimately be to box an injured Floyd from round 3 onwards, I think he'll probably have a leg injury as his plan A, the chance of this goes beyond my knowledge on this particular topic, but I think he might target the achillies, but anyway, I believe he believes he can beat Floyd Mayweather, at boxing, under boxing rules, but I do not believe he is so stupid, so deluded as to believe he can beat Mayweather boxer on form, against boxer on form. I'm not sure, maybe he'll be subtle, try to wrestle Mayweather, pull one of his arms out of his socket, but I think he will fail. No, and I won't, I'll just watch the fight itself.

If I were to guess I would say that some sort of evidence will come out about if he did it or not, but not for a while.

Honestly trying to hurt Mayweather would be his best chance of winning if any. I think Conor Mcgregor has no shot of beating an on form Mayweather. That's fine I was just curious to see if you looked up anything on him or watched any videos.

Champion97's picture

I agree, but I don't like the guy, I strongly dislike him in fact, and until he proves his innocence, I will continue to have the same attitude towards him.

Yes, but more specifically, with a foul, he is an MMA fighter I suppose, I think the only injury he could cause which could turn the fight in his favour is if he can do some terrible damage to Floyd's leg, you take away his legs, he is in trouble, we might have a fight if that happens, I think anything facial will fail, he can f*** up his arm, but Mayweather can box with one hand school him all night, boxer on form against boxer on form, McGregor has no more chance against Mayweather than me, I don't think McGregor is that deluded. I do watch them, but not for this particular fight, you enjoy them though.

That's fair.

Ok, like something dirty. I think he might try to low blow Floyd with a knee or a punch while in on a clinch or something like that. I'm not sure how he will try to hurt Floyd's leg. I agree, I think Mcgregor has no chance. I don't see what others see in Mcgregor that gives him the tools to beat Mcgregor. People say Mcgregor has a lot of power but, one he's using heavier gloves and will diminish some power, and two you can have all the power and the world and it doesn't mean anything if you can't hit the target. Another thing that I don't get is they say Mcgregor is his strongest and fastest opponent which is bull shit, Canelo is stronger than him, and Pacquaio and Judah are much faster, well at least in a boxing sense. Also people need to realize in different sports you use your strengths differently, in boxing you would use strength and skills different then MMA.

Champion97's picture

Absolutely, I think he believes he can beat an injured Mayweather, a much reduced fighter, under boxing rules, I think once he was in trouble with the referee, he believes that at this point in the fight, Floyd can either quit, and lose, or continue lumbered with the injury, but I think he knows he needs that, he can't be so deluded surely. I doubt it will be a low blow, Floyd could five minutes to recover, and he'll get McGregor in trouble, I think for McGregor, because he's an MMA fighter, that means a few things, he's a roughhouse, he can kick, he can knee, and he'll know where to knee Floyd in order to severely injury his leg, I think if that happened, McGregor would give Floyd a tough fight, every minute of every round would agony for Mayweather, but he wouldn't quit, and guess what?, I still don't think McGregor beats him, I give him a very, very slim chance with Mayweather having an arm injury, but anyway, my prediction is for him to try this for 6 minutes, Mayweather will put in a position where he can either expose himself as a dirty fighter, or lose, and of this happens, McGregor has as much chance of beating Floyd Mayweather as you, me, and every other guy who isn't a boxer. Even if he did, and you're right, but even if he did, I don't think Mayweather really struggles with speed, not so much that the opponent is a threat because of it, I think the thing is with speed, you know what it is, you can negate it, timing beags speed most of the time, and like you said, he isn't used to punching with boxing gloves. McGregor isn't as physically strong as Mayweather, Mayweather's bigger, it is hard to really out hustle Floyd Mayweather, I mean, strength, speed, Manny Pacquiao was unsuccessful with all these things, so how can McGregor not be?, I think if Floyd was 70, and McGregor was still 27, then this would be a 50/50 fight, if Floyd was 80, I think McGregor would win, 60, Floyd wins, 50, still an absolute mismatch.

Left Eye's picture

McGregor can't use any MMA moves.

There is a clause in the contract stipulating that if Conor uses any non-boxing move he will forfeit part of his purse to Mayweather.

Dana White said that was the first thing ironed out in the contract.

Champion97's picture

I think he will do just that, I think he will do something subtle in order to hurt Mayweather early, so Mayweather is at a disadvantage for the rest of the fight, once this fails as I think it will, Conor is screwed, he is deluded, but I don't think he is so deluded, so stupid that he actually thinks he can out box Floyd Mayweather, or that he can beat Floyd Mayweather under any kind of boxing rules, just to clarify, I think McGregor will forfeit money in order to do what he plans.

Left Eye's picture

Dana White on Conor potentially using kicks -

“That will not happen!” White said during the conference call. “First of all, obviously, that is absolutely in the contract, number one. And number two, this is a boxing match under the Nevada State Athletic Commission, under the rules of boxing, and I mean, when you talk about a guy of Floyd Mayweather’s level and value in the sport and things like that, I mean, the lawsuit if that ever happened would, you know - Conor likes money, man, and Conor would [part with a lot of money] if that were to ever happen. So, yeah, that will not happen!”

He won't do it. He would be DQ'd and lose a ton of money.

Considering he only took this fight for the money, there is no way he would throw some of it away by kicking Floyd - and one kick wouldn't be enough to win him the fight anyway.

Champion97's picture

Ok, that's interesting, but that doesn't convince me, Dana White doesn't control Conor's instincts or his true fighting intentions.

I think he will, I don't think the referee would DQ him in a fight of this magnitude, not after the first offence.

That's not true, I mean, haha, you might know this or maybe not, but fighters, warriors in MMA and boxing, they don't just take big fights for the money, boxing is business, I know that, a lot of it, more than a casual fan understands, is about money nowadays, but to say a warrior takes a big fight, goes through what he goes through, just for the money, I think you know that's not true.

If it gave him a chance of winning (well, haha, in his mind), I think he would. No no you misunderstand me, I think his plan is not to take Floyd out with one MMA move, I think his plan is to injur Floyd early, and I mean badly, with a dirty move, and then beat him under boxing rules, not for a second suggesting he can, just saying, I think that is what h is planning, I mean, he must be confident he is going to win, and do you really, honestly believe he thinks he can beat Mayweather without an advantage?

Also, I'm not talking about an obvious foul, I'm talking a malicious, callas, subtle illegal move, maybe a kick or knee because a leg injury, well you know how well Floyd uses his feet, but I'm not necessarily talking about a kick, maybe nnot even an MMA move, maybe he will manhandle Mayweather onto the ropes, pull one his arms out of his socket, maybe a serious cut, broken jaw maybe, something, but I believe McGregor is planning something like this, but if it fails, which I'm 95% sure it will, he has 0% chance, well, no more than I do, and I never got my boxing licence, haha.

Left Eye's picture

The only reason Conor is willing to fight Floyd in a boxing match and probably get embarrassed in front of the biggest audience in combat sports history is because he'll make $100 million.

This is absolutely all about the money - for both.

If you're Floyd, you're fighting an amateur boxer for $200 million; if you're Conor, you're allowing yourself to be humiliated for $100 million.

Jarod Killian's picture

I thought he did really well the first time. Not so much the second time. I finally got around to watching the Pacman fight and to be honest I was quite impressed with Pac's showing. I still thought Floyd won but I thought Pac clearly won 5 rounds. I think Maidana and Pacquiao have given post-Bruseles Floyd his two toughest fights. Bruseles is the first fight were the current defensive Floyd was born.