Robert Helenius vs Adam Kownacki II

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Robert Helenius vs Adam Kownacki II
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2.7
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Saturday, October 9, 2021
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Fan Cards: Robert Helenius vs Adam Kownacki II


scorecard by POWERPUNCHER999
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by MARTHOLOMEW
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by DIEGOYEYE
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by ABURIUS
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by SALTNUTZ1
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by DIZZY
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by ROY JONES
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by NF82
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by GOOSU
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by KMSCR83
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by METALHEAD123
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by NOCTISSOLID
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by MBUCK
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by MRCHICKEN
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by TREY813
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by BIGDAWGMIKE
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by ALLYBLAACK
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by PETIEROACH
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by FELIPE
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by CHRIS M95
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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scorecard by JONTAM23
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ROBERT HELENIUS
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ADAM KOWNACKI
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Comments

Jarod Killian's picture

Robert Helenius TKO3

Champion97's picture

Prediction.

I think Kownacki underestimated Helenius's power last time, was confident Helenius couldn't hurt him, was reckless, got hurt, I don't think Helenius had much in the tank, but Kownacki had no survival skill whatsoever, was very easy to finish. I think Kownacki has all the room for improvement, doesn't need to do much differently to the first time to win, can hold up against good shots from Helenius, but can't afford to walk into a shot, and will be hurt if Helenius lands his best shot. I don't think it's likely Kownacki needs to do much to survive against Helenius if he's hurt, because Helenius gasses early, and unless Helenius hurts him very early, he won't have much in the tank to finish him, clinching might not be a good tactic for Kownacki, because Helenius is the much bigger fighter, can lean Kownacki, which is draining, but if he can make Helenius miss with a couple of big shots, he is likely to survive.

I think Kownacki will be more cautious than last time, but will still apply pressure, won't cut off the ring, but Helenius's own movement will take more out of himself than Kownacki, I think Kownacki's defence will be slightly better, he will be busier with his jab and throw fewer lead power shots, but will throw the right hand to the head and body behind the jab. I think Helenius will land some hard shots, but not enough to have any success, and Kownacki will hold up well, will be forced to fight at the tempo Kownacki sets. I think Kownacki will break Helenius down, will be more aggressive in the mid rounds, and will stop Helenius.

I'd be surprised if this was anything but a stoppage for Kownacki.

Champion97's picture

Kownacki has to retire, he was mentally damaged after the first fight, and took a lot more physical damage in the second fight, he improved his defence somewhat, his guard was better, moved his head slightly more, but apart from that, he made no improvements, didn't cut off the ring, didn't know what to when Helenius was on the attack, and had no method to his offence. Helenius improved on the first fight because he improved his stamina, had been more disciplined between the fights, and he had the measure of Kownacki.

Kownacki learnt nothing in between fights, whereas Helenius somehow at age 37 improved. More fights vs. contenders next for Helenius, retirement next for Kownacki

dizzy's picture

First impressions...

I'm not gonna lie, I was one of the very few people that were more interested in this fight than the Fury vs Wilder 3. Their first encounter was an upset, I was curious whether Kownacki learned from his mistakes from the previous fight. I give him credit, it looked like he tried to work on them, however his head and upper-body movement remains a serious issue. You have to understand, "head and upper-body movement" isn't just bobbing and weaving, it's knowing where and how to place your head and body in a particular moment, you only have about 1/100 of a second to make the right decision and it shouldn't seriously affect other aspects of your game, such as understanding of positioning, switch from offense to defense etc. Helenius fully capitalized on Kownacki's inability to successfully combine head movement and high-volume pressure style, when Kownacki was coming forward he could not move properly with his head, when he was trying to not forget about head movement, Helenius made sure Kownacki's punching volume significantly dropped.

These two fights also showed one more thing - Kownacki has no clear idea of what to do when he's hurt. His clinching game is next to non-existent, he doesn't move away from the following shots either, most of the time his only answer is to trade back and when that doesn't work (which depends on how seriously he's hurt), he's in trouble. This is what he has in common with his countryman Andrzej Golota, and that might explain why he reversed to blatantly dirty tactics so many times in this fight.

Will this be a resurrection of Helenius? In his prime, he was viewed as one of the brightest up and coming heavyweights, his victory over Samuel Peter so far remains the best win of his career, unfortunately he never faced one of the Klitschkos. He did have his chance to earn a Klitschko showdown when he faced Chisora for the No.1 contender spot, he won the fight but unfortunately for him that win was widely viewed as a massive robbery, and I don't blame Vitali for facing Chisora instead. Then his contract disputes with Team Sauerland, along with injuries, took way too many years off of his career, for a long time it seemed like Helenius was finished and will never bounce back.

Now obviously, it would be foolish to say Helenius is back after only one highly rated opponent pumping his resume, plus he's 37 years old and clearly past his best years when he was stronger, faster, had better timing and could successfully stand toe-to-toe or come forward at his opponent when it was necessary. But I can't help but be curious about Helenius facing other top-rated fighters. His style is built around fighting on the back foot, which makes it harder for his opponents to make him walk into a game-changing shot and he is always in a dangerous counterpunching mode, he does however struggle when his opponent goes for the body as he seemingly can't go flawlessly from body-covering to counterattack. Most of the time Helenius has to move away first, then re-establish the distance. When I look at the current top 15, I think Helenius has a good chance against Joseph Parker, Michael Hunter and Murat Gassiev, possibly Andy Ruiz, fighters with height and reach disadvantage and whose body work isn't consistent. Beating one of those guys can potentially catapult Helenius to the top 10 after the decade-long absence.

I'm not sure where Kownacki's career goes after that, obviously it depends on his promoter and whether Kownacki can do something to either work on his weaknesses or cover them. I don't think he's a hypejob who got exposed, I think stylistically Helenius was all wrong for him, aside from that Kownacki did prove himself against numerous top-20 and top-30 fighters so he's a capable fighter. In my opinion, Hughie Fury or Dominic Breazale would be suitable for him, both somewhat recognized by the public. Hughie can fight on the back foot and is somewhat slippery but not to the extent of his cousin, doesn't have a very good jab and can't generate power to seriously hurt Kownacki. Breazale may have a better jab but I haven't seen him fighting on the back foot, he's not a come-forward type of fighter either, he's an outside boxer who's usually fighting tall, but I don't think his tools are good enough to withstand Kownacki's pressure. The most obvious choice would be, in my opinion, Mariusz Wach, the fight would be easy to arrange, will draw some PPV numbers in Poland plus Wach hardly has anything that could seriously bother Kownacki, but does have an iron chin to make the fight go longer and possibly test Kownacki's stamina. There are some up and coming fighters whose style is suitable for Kownacki but I don't think their promoters will go with that.

Guy Incognito's picture

Looks like Kownacki didn't learn anything from last time. I'm surprised, and also disappointed. Props to Helenius. I always thought he was pretty average, and I guess he still might be if Kownacki really was that overrated. Disappointing ending too. But it was an interesting fight for the undercard.

Pathetic end to Kownacki's career - or at least I hope it is. Let's have it right, getting purposely thrown out like that was the worst way of quitting.

On the same night we saw Deontay Wilder give his heart and soul after a much more severe beating than Kownacki took in their 1st fight. Wilder showed real mental toughness, Kownacki showed he no longer belongs in the sport.