Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
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Jarod Killian
Fri, 2021-07-23 14:12
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
Oscar Valdez TKO4
Jarod Killian
Fri, 2021-07-23 16:58
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
I'm glad Robson got a title shot strictly from the prizefighting standpoint as he is not the youngest guy out there and he needs to get paid. All that outta the way, I hope he's already looking elsewhere cause all his dreams, hopes and aspirations will be crushed shut out of him come Friday, September 10, 2021. Oscar is going to tear him to shreds. This is such a stupid step up in competition for Robson it's not even funny. But glad he's getting paid. This has to be his biggest payday ever.
Champion97
Mon, 2021-09-06 15:36
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
Prediction.
Both fighters can hurt each other, but Valdez hits harder, both fighters are well schooled, have good technique and overall boxing skill, but Valdez's ability to box well for 12 rounds is the difference, which is partly down to his experience. Valdez is more offensively versatile, is the better counter puncher, and is more strategic. Both fighters have great footwork, but Valdez has faster feet. Conceicao's resume doesn't compare to Valdez's, he hasn't been 12 rounds, and he doesn't seem to have adapted as a professional as well as Valdez.
I think the fight will be tentative in the early rounds, ì Conceicao will take centre ring, will get his jab off first, throw combinations, and Valdez will start the fight on the defensive, but when he times a counter, and Conceicao feels his power, the momentum will slowly turn in his favour. I think Conceicao's output will drop as the fight goes on, Valdez will be patient, will out jab Conceicao, vary the jab to head and body, keep Valdez on the defensive, will be prepared to hit the guard, won't give Conceicao any openings. I think Conceicao will try to go for broke in the late rounds, but Valdez will defend well, will time Conceicao, and like earlier in the fight, Conceicao will go on the defensive.
I think Valdez wins a wide UD, I'd be surprised if Conceicao won, I wouldn't be surprised if Valdez got a late or even mid stoppage.
Metalhead123
Mon, 2021-09-06 20:55
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
Champ, how do you feel about Valdez testing positive for a banned substance? I really want to believe it was some kind of mistake, but the cynic in me refuses to believe it wasn't intentional
Champion97
Mon, 2021-09-06 22:55
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
I don't think much of it, it's poor from him and his team, very unprofessional, but an indirect PED, a drug that helps weight loss, doesn't warrant the reaction it's got, plenty of fighters fail tests, and Valdez is no worse than Fury, Whyte, and Jones Jr. I don't believe for a second that he didn't mean to take the substance, but many fighters take something, and push the boundaries of what's legal, which is a slippery slope.
Metalhead123
Mon, 2021-09-06 23:14
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
I think a big reason for the outrage is because it was initially reported, incorrectly, that Valdez had tested positive for clenbutinol which is a much more obvious masking agent. My only question about Valdez, is why the hell is he taking a weight loss drug when he has moved up to what seems to be a more comfortable weight for him? That doesn’t make any sense to me.
Champion97
Wed, 2021-09-08 04:41
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
I don't know why he had it in his system, unless he was behind with his training, and was pushed for time to make weight, a weight loss drug is not the same as a direct PED which gives a fighter unnatural strength and power, it's not taken with the intention of doing unnatural damage, like those drugs are, but I think he should be fined, fighters shouldn't get away with failing tests, it's still cheating in a dangerous sport.
beaunuitmem
Wed, 2021-09-08 09:24
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5 or 6 failed tests from the same gym in the last 2 years is a cause for concern. The more I hear, the more I’ve come to believe that fighters that cheat, outnumber the ones that don’t. Everyone knows about Ingle’s pringles in the UK and as far as I’m concerned, any fighter that has employed Memo Heredia either directly or indirectly is cheating, otherwise why take the risk of associating your name with his. Larry Wade is another one I’m unsure about because of his past. Basically, unless you coach a Jamaican bobsled team; if you cheated in the past, I’m going to assume you’re still doing it now, you’re just better at it. The Sunny Edwards rant on ifl is pure gold.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ycO9k_s4q6o&list=PLrwZ9hakiyRgAJSPzNAAhDUF...
beaunuitmem
Mon, 2022-04-25 14:48
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
Just been told by Michael Woods that he thinks 80% of top tier fighters are on, his words, "shady supplements". Not sure how loose he is with statements like that but even if it's only half right it validates my assumption. Honestly looks like the whole industry is happy to just sweep it under the carpet.
AJ Knight
Sat, 2021-09-11 06:21
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
Man, the fix was in. The judge who scored this 117-110 needs to be investigated, and so does that ref. That was the second most clearly biased officiating I've ever seen in boxing. What the hell was that point deduction. Just utterly disgusting.
Jarod Killian
Sat, 2021-09-11 14:16
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
Valdez lost this fight smh
johnmadden22
Sat, 2021-09-11 14:41
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
It's cool that you can admit that despite posting about how Conceicao's dreams were going to get crushed and he was going to get TKOd in 4 lol. I thought the fight would be more competitive than that, but man I did not expect Oscar to just clearly lose
Jarod Killian
Sat, 2021-09-11 14:48
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
I have no issue of coming back and posting follow ups when I'm off. Also, I have no problem of switching sides mid fight if the other fighter is truly doing an amazing effort. There's plenty of evidence of that as well on this website. I'm not a fan of Valdez if that's what you were thinking I'm really not a fan of anyone, I mean there's fighters I like and dislike same way it takes a lot for me to hate a fighter (Margarito, Butler, Resto). I just thought given the data available Valdez was going to crush him. That said, I thought pretty much Robson schooled Valdez. The point deduction was bullshit but I counted it since the ref called it.
Champion97
Mon, 2022-04-25 14:12
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Re: Oscar Valdez vs Robson Conceicao
Terrible performance from Valdez, he wasn't prepared for Conceicao's style, he didn't want to concede the back foot in the early rounds, and that made him more of a target for Conceicao's jab, he let Conceicao work at mid range, his pressure was terrible, he not only let Conceicao move at his own pace, but didn't take advantage when Conceicao was showboating, which shows how bad his mentality was. The referee was poor, I don't think there should be complaints when a fighter loses a point for hitting in the back of the head, but Valdez did it as well, I think the referee was biased, but I think Conceicao got away with excessive holding. I think Conceicao did enough to win, but I think he cost himself the fight in the late rounds, he coasted, thinking he was further ahead than he was, and expecting a fair shake, like De La Hoya against Trinidad.