Dmitry Bivol vs Saul Alvarez
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charliemason
Sat, 2022-02-26 15:34
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Re: Dmitry Bivol vs Saul Alvarez
Interesting match up. My dream scenario would have been a mini tournament between Bivol V Beterbiev and Canelo V GGG. Winner fights winner. However, Bivol is still very good boxer, but I have questions about whether he will be able to consistently hurt Canelo over 12 rounds. I can picture a similar fight pattern to Canelo V Kovalev in regards to this fight with Kovalev showing a brave showing but Canelo just too good for him really. I just struggle to see Bivol hurting Canelo hence Canelo can definitely hurt bivol easily imo. I think it will be a fairly comfortable points decision for canelo by 3-4 ish rounds. However I would not be surprised if Bivol outboxed canelo as I do think bivol is better than plant, but just not there yet.
Jarod Killian
Tue, 2022-05-03 09:02
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Re: Dmitry Buffalo vs Malecinnamon Dawnbeef
This is a much more interesting fight than I thought at first. After seeing how much Mr. Malecinnamon struggled against a green Captain Planet on his last fight I have second thoughts about how this might unfold. Malecinnamon's chin really hasn't been tested in at or above 160lbs so Buffalo's fists might be too much for him we'll see. It would definitely be prudent for Dmitry to try and go for a stoppage otherwise there's no way he'll get a decision at least not against Malecinnamon.
Malecinnamon will have to fucking start this fight at a slightly busier pace than he usually does as his motherfucking success will depend on how soon he can fuck up Buffalo's timing and take away that slick ass motherfucking footwork of his.
I could totally see this fight turning out to be like when Tito Trinity fought BHop you know what I mean? Every motherfucker in the world wrote BHop off going into that fight even though he had the skills and power to pull off the upset. Same here. Well partially, I see Buffalo's style with his sense of timing and also his skills this motherfucker has an extensive amateur background to neutralize Malecinnamon. Both fighters will have their fucking hands full but if it took Malecinnamon 5-6 rounds to figure Plant out then I expect Buffalo to be in there way longer.
I really don't see Malecinnamon improved that much at least not to make such a big fuss about his "conquering" of the 168 division with them 4 belts: he's fought a fucking tall ass motherfucking Brit guy that didn't know how to fight fucking tall, he took a Turkish delight snack as a poor ass excuse to spar in Miami and hang out with J Balvin (a talentless fuck but that's a whole other story), then BJS, okay BJS was a legit opponent at 168 and he did dispose of him good but then against Captain Planet he should've beat that guy easy. I really think Malecinnamon right now is better than when he fought Lara but the exact same ass motherfucker he was when he fought GGG. In fact, I didn't even see him that improved when he rematched GGG.
In recent interviews when pressed, Malecinnamon has not sounded confident in KO'ing Buffalo at least not when you compare how he sounded in previews pre-fights saying he was going to stop BJS and Captain Planet. He's even said beating Dmitry Buffalo by stoppage is difficult. With that said, my prediction is Malecinnamon will get a UD nod with scorecards in the 117-111 and 116-112 varieties maybe one outrageous 118-110 where the general consensus ringside is that anything other than 115-113 either way is pushing it.
Champion97
Wed, 2022-04-20 05:04
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Re: Dmitry Bivol vs Saul Alvarez
Prediction.
I think Bivol is the best fighter Canelo has fought since 2018, definitely since 2019. Canelo's amateur background doesn't compare to Bivol's, Canelo is extremely experienced as a professional, they came up differently as fighters, and have very different styles. Bivol's fundamentals are better than Canelo's, his jab is far better, his blocking is better, and his right hand is better at long range. As well as being the better basic boxer, I think Bivol is better on the back foot, and is more agile. Canelo has faster hands, has far better variety, his head movement is better than Bivol's, Canelo is a far better pressure fighter than Bivol, and has a better chin. Bivol is slightly bigger than Canelo, but likely not the strongest fighter Canelo has pushed back and beat. Both fighters have a good ring IQ, but Canelo more so, his reflexes and timing could be the difference at a low tempo. Both fighters have great punch accuracy, I expect both to punch through the guard, Bivol's best defence is avoiding the pocket, and Canelo's is his head movement once he's in the pocket.
I think Bivol will get his jab off in the early rounds, will be mobile, and Canelo will need time to cut off the ring. I think Bivol will struggle for accuracy, and won't be able to back Canelo up, but Canelo will struggle to get into range to throw hooks, and will fall short with the right hand. I think the fight will change when Canelo is able step inside Bivol's reach, and when Bivol is briefly on the ropes in rounds 3 and 4, Canelo will throw an accurate, varied body to head combination, and even as Bivol gets off the ropes, he won't be able to maintain the distance, and he will struggle to stay off the ropes as Canelo cuts him off. I think Canelo will walk Bivol down in the mid rounds, Bivol will figt his fight under pressure and pick his shots, but Canelo will slip and counter, and will sustain his consistent pressure. I think Bivol will get back to his jab by getting it off to start a round, and he will hook off the jab to set up his pivot, which will challenge Canelo, but he will make the adjustment of cutting off Bivol's pivot with his front foot, will lean to his right, and land the right hand. I think Canelo will finish strong, Bivol won't be able to avoid the pocket, will keep moving and throwing back, but Canelo will easily make him miss and pay.
I think Canelo wins a UD, not a landslide, but not close, I wouldn't be surprised if he stopped Bivol, I'd be surprised if Bivol pulled out the upset, but I expect Bivol to raise his stock and give Canelo problems.
charliemason
Mon, 2022-04-11 19:56
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Re: Dmitry Bivol vs Saul Alvarez
Random i know, but do you think Bivol is better than BJS? And do you think Canelo would beat Beterbiev if they fought instead? Thanks.
Champion97
Wed, 2022-04-20 05:00
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Re: Dmitry Bivol vs Saul Alvarez
Yes I think he is better, Saunders is well schooled, but he doesn't have the extensive amateur background Bivol has, he's a better counter puncher than Bivol, has better reflexes, and is likely more talented, but there's no comparison for work ethic, Saunders didn't fulfill his potential, Bivol has a lot of discipline, has a balanced mentality, his pacing is consistent, but he can work at a high pace for 12 rounds, is one of the best basic boxers in the world, he is compact, and has very few weaknesses, he is a hard man to beat, I think several fighters at 154-168 would beat Saunders, and I don't think he was doing as well against Canelo as he looked like he was, meaning Canelo let him move and pot shot him, which looked to may people like Saunders frustrating Canelo by using the ring and picking him off, but Canelo was more comfortable than Saunders throughout, I'd be shocked if Bivol didn't do better against Canelo than Saunders, I think his style is worse for Canelo as well because his jab is better than Saunders's, and if any shot is a problem for Canelo, it's the jab. What do you think?
Yes I think Canelo would beat Beterbiev, he'd have to be very cautious throughout, if Beterbiev landed clean, Canelo would be hit harder than before, I think he'd be on the back foot, but he'd hold up well mentally under pressure, would defend well and time Beterbiev at mid range, would be ahead with the feet, and I think the momentum would gradually turn in Canelo's favour as the fight goes on. What are your thoughts on that fight?
charliemason
Fri, 2022-05-06 18:36
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My issue with the jab, is that Kovalev who punches harder than Bivol, didnt seem to bother Canelo much with the jab, although Bivol is probably better than Kovalev in terms of skill. Very undecided on Canelo V Beterbiev.
TheUndefeated
Wed, 2022-05-04 11:43
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"Canelo's (best defense) is his head movement once he's in the pocket."
Yes. Reminds a bit of James Toney - but not quite that good.
Bigdramashow
Fri, 2022-05-06 07:04
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Re: Dmitry Bivol vs Saul Alvarez
Prediction:
Canelo went life and death with a 36yr old Kovalev, who was not only weight drained and dehydrated, he was also almost KO’ed by Yarde 6 weeks prior to fighitng Canelo. Not only that, Kovalev was stopped in 2 of his last 6 fights before Canelo.
Even then Kovalev kept Canelo at bay with his pitty pat jabs, gave Canelo an absolute schooling in round 8 when Kovalev’s gas tank was already empty after round 6.
I expect this fight to go like Canelo vs Kovalev round 8 all night. With Bivol keeping Canelo at bay with his jabs, 1-2’s and footwork. (Ala Valdez vs Stevenson) This is the same Canelo who struggled with Caleb Plant and took 11 rounds to beat him.
Dmitry Bivol will win this by decision. I won’t be surprised if Canelo robs him on the cards if it’s a close fight. Like when Canelo robbed Trout, Lara and GGG.
TheAlterPlace
Fri, 2022-05-06 18:28
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I agree 100% i could see it being stopped possibly due to styles as well. bivols style is all wrong for canelo
TheUndefeated
Sat, 2022-05-07 22:13
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Nice call
Bigdramashow
Sat, 2022-05-07 23:18
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Called it!!
Jarod Killian
Sat, 2022-05-07 21:35
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3 Minutes to go for a highway robbery........
Jarod Killian
Sat, 2022-05-07 21:43
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I'm LEGIT SHOCKED! If I am Dmitry Buffalo and team, I would FOLLOW the people collecting the post fight urinalysis to the testing facility AND WAIT WAIT for the results. Seriously.
jontam23
Sat, 2022-05-07 21:43
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They tried to rob Bivol smh, 115-113??? At least the right man won, but Canelo did not win anywhere close to 5 rounds...
Jarod Killian
Sat, 2022-05-07 22:06
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when they said 115-113 UD I was like YEP, they're giving it to Canelo and when they said STILL I'm not going to lie I was actually shocked which goes to show the sad state of this sport where it actually shocks you that the right guy won while you were expecting a robbery to take place kinda similar to how I felt when they announced the decision of AJ Usyk.
Metalhead123
Sat, 2022-05-07 21:44
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Re: Dmitry Bivol vs Saul Alvarez
Icarus flew too close to the sun.
Jarod Killian
Sat, 2022-05-07 21:53
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sure did. I'm still not convinced they might "find" something in Dmitry's post test. Looks like Canelo wants an immediate rematch so maybe in September? Although, I doubt Canelo could do anything different in 4 months.
davidtorresgaming
Sat, 2022-05-07 22:09
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Canelo won a couple rounds at best, 115-113 makes it seem like they were trying to score for him.
ALSO suggestion for this site, set the default scoring values at 10-10 so we only have to change one number.
Chris M95
Mon, 2022-05-09 00:51
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Re: Dmitry Bivol vs Saul Alvarez
Bivol rds 6,7,8,10,11,12
Alvarez rds 3,4,9
competitive rds 1,2,5
had 100% compatibility will all 3 official judges hoping I can say that again after getting to look at the copy of the master scorecard from the co main Montana Love vs Gollaz Valenzuela
Chris M95
Sun, 2022-05-08 06:27
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Re: Dmitry Bivol vs Saul Alvarez
"that answers the question of whether Felix Trinidad could get a decision over Oscar Dela Hoya in Las Vegas...YESS HE COULD"
Home of boxing, congrats Bivol you belong w the very best p4p Champs in the sport
hopefully now DAZN still doesn't push w that overrated trilogy fight and if we can all get a Bivol vs Alvarez rematch next instead...Bivol you sir joins Zaur Abdullaev as my new favs in the sport beautiful boxing
Champion97
Mon, 2022-05-09 02:47
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Re: Dmitry Bivol vs Saul Alvarez
Exceptional performance from Bivol, I think it was a poor performance from Canelo, but it was more about Bivol being underrated. Bivol took centre ring and established his jab very early, and he maintained his jab in Canelo's range, which was a big problem for Canelo. Canelo cutting distance wasn't a problem for Bivol, he shortened the jab and adapted the right hand to Canelo's position, Canelo was cutting off the ring well as always, but Bivol's footwork was ahead of Canelo's, he was moving to his left, but whenever Canelo cut him off, he threw and moved around to his right, disrupting Canelo's pressure, Canelo tried to shift his position and adjust his feet to set shots up, but Bivol read his movement. Bivol's game plan couldn't have been better, he didn't oblige Canelo by trying to keep the middle of the ring throughout, but he didn't allow Canelo to come forward consistently by staying on the back foot, he was ready to move on the back foot and get the centre of the ring back, found the perfect balance.
Bivol's punch selection and accuracy were brilliant, it's very rare a Canelo opponent can pick shots better than him, Canelo couldn't get out of position for Bivol's jab and right hand. Bivol's blocking was phenomenal, saw Canelo's shots coming, and tweaked his guard, which is very hard with Canelo's accuracy and variety. Bivol's judgement of distance was brilliant, he didn't over think the jab and try to jar Canelo with an eye catching jab, but his jab was consistent, and his use of his legs to set up the jab was brilliant. Trying to catch Canelo with the right hand on the way in would have been the wrong tactic, because Canelo is so good at making himself small as he steps in, but because of Bivol's feet, Canelo couldn't move around the side, and Bivol landed the right hand as Canelo was backing out. Mentality was important in this fight, Bivol seemed mentally balanced throughout, he had every form of discipline, but Canelo was very frustrated, he seemed reliant on Bivol making mistakes, and like against Mayweather, his intelligence was a hindrance because he knew there was no clear path to victory, he was tiring after 6 rounds, tried to rest on the ropes, and bait Bivol into punching himself out, but Bivol didn't take the bait, Canelo didn't know what his game plan was in the late rounds, he didn't know whether to throw kitchen sink at Bivol or back up and hope for him to get careless, he was so unsettled in the late rounds, that he was slipping shots that weren't coming. For the first time in 5 years, Canelo got favourable scoring from the judges, this was not a close fight, and Canelo didn't have to win the fight to get the decision, and Bivol needed a landslide to get the win.
TheUndefeated
Sun, 2022-05-08 08:02
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Correct. The last time he really received the benefit of obviously biased (or inept) scoring was GGG I in 2017 and really that was just one judge with a ridiculous card. A judge with a history of ridiculous cards.
Chris M95
Tue, 2022-05-10 03:05
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just been on ESNews community page on YT and Canelo Alvarez still #1 p4p according to 50% of the fan base on the poll coming off a loss you cant make this up
Jarod Killian
Wed, 2022-08-24 10:51
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Looks like the Fighting (or is it Fightin'?) Pride of Indio, California Mr. Dmitry Buffalo is set to make his triumphant return to the ring after his career high win against Malecinnamon Dawnbeef in the UAE sometime this fall against Mexico's Lefty Ramirez. Let's see if Dmitry Buffalo can keep it up and represent the hopes and dreams of the people of Indio. Will it be Indio 2 Mexico 0, perhaps this is the brewing of a new rivalry in boxing between Indio and Mexico. We shall find out.