Jarrett Hurd vs Erislandy Lara Scorecard by mike25


scorecard by MIKE25
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JARRETT HURD
9
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113
ERISLANDY LARA
10
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9
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114

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Champion97's picture

I thought this was an underrated fight, how impressed were you by Hurd? And do you think Lara fought the fight of his life even though he lost?

I forgot to put this in my top fights of the year definitely top 3. I was very impressed with Hurd, he was able to bully Lara more then any other fighters I've seen fight. I thought it could've went either way, but in the second watch I noticed a lot of Lara landing the more cleaner shots.

Do you think Lara will fight again?

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Hurd wasn't quite as good as I thought overall, but what a finish, swung the fight in his favour with the knock down. Lara was better than I thought, less declined. Hurd learned a lot in this fight, I think Lara was only going to benefit from a win, but he came very close.

Yes, I think he might have a couple of fights left, I think he still might even be top 3, at this stage, I definitely don't think he's top 2, Charlo, Hurd, definitely beat him now I think, but he might still have too much experience for Munguia.

What do you think Broner needs to do to beat Pacquiao?, what vise verser for Pacquiao?

He did great towards the end, I think he was the only fighter to beat Lara like that. Even though I thought Lara won this time around, I thought that it could've went either way and that Hurd did better then Canelo did against Lara. Still thinking about it, that decision against Paul Williams was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen.

I was just reading something on bad left hook saying that there is almost a done deal with him to fight Brian Castano. It says he is the WBA 154 champion but when I look on the boxrec site and it doesn't have him listed as a champion. All I know about Costano is that he's 15-0 with 11 kos. Not a bad return fight for Lara. Before he retires, I'd like to see him fight Brook. It's a good fight winnable for both. Manguia is a great fight for Lara as well.

For Broner, I think he needs to incorporate movement and actually let his hands go. He never does that in big fights, or when he does it's too late. Pacquiao has a hard time dealing with movement. For Pacquiao, I just think he needs to fire off those combinations, get there first to throw Broner off. What do you think?

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I agree, I thought Alvarez vs Lara was a draw. It was a bad one, maybe not the worst, but it was up there, it was about as bad as Chudinov vs Mohammedi in my opinion.

That's a good match up. That's because he isn't, Hurd is, the WBA shouldn't do this, but the Regular is just a belt they have created to take more sanctioning fees, Pacquiao is not a champion, neither is Brant, neither is Diaz, neither is Fielding, the champions are Thurman, Alvarez, Santa Cruz, Smith. It probably won't happen because there isn't enough for Brook to gain from that fight, but it would be an interesting one.

I think he has to let his hands go, but he also has to be himself, he will never be a volume puncher, but he needs to throw enough, not realistically a lot, but enough. I agree that Pacquiao struggles with movement, but he also struggles when he's backed up, and I think Pacquiao only struggles with movement when the opponent is controlling the distance, is consistent, following the game plan, can pivot, punch off the ropes, I don't think Broner is good enough at fighting off the ropes, using pivots, boxing consistently well off the back foot, and I think that is the wrong tactic for him, he definitely shouldn't try to do what Mayweather did, because I think if Pacquiao can back him up, Pacquiao still has the speed andthe ability to get into that rhythm, the reflexes are partly still there, and he can just pull the trigger, and overwhelm Broner. I think Broner needs to hold centre ring, not let Pacquiao get that leverage, he needs to be patient, shoot that jab down the middle, time that right yand follow up, if he can land that, he can hurt Pacquiao. I think the result depends on whether Pacquiao can bully Broner to the ropes.

I thought Lara edged Canelo in that fight. The Williams fight should have been a clear Lara win. I still have to see the Chudinov fight.

I hate that they make more then one belt to confuse things. So when Pacquiao beat Matthysse he didn't take the more important WBA belt? I feel like it's a good fight, but Brook doesn't get much out of it, maybe if one of them are champions it would make more sense.

I think that's Broners downfall he never throws enough punches, that's why I feel he loses this one. Pacquiao is still a fighter that has some left in him to beat Broner. I think if Pacquiao throws in high volume, gets Broner on the ropes, I really think Broner will struggle to win a round with him. His conditioning has always been top notch, so it'll be hard for him to punch himself out, but he is old so that might be a factor. Broner won't really know what to do if Pacquiao gets into a good rhythm. Do you think Pacquiao wins big in this fight?

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It wasn't a great fight, I had it 9-3 for Mohammedi, Chudinov knew he lost.

It's about money. Exactly. Best chance of it happening would be Munguia moving up and vacating the belt, but if Charlo vs Hurd doesn't happen next, and Brook and Hearn give up on Khan, then Hurd vs Brook is more likely, especially considering the Zerafa fight was a WBA title eliminator.

Yeah I think so, some fighters can get away with a low output, but you have to be better at timing shots, produce better quality work than Broner to get away with lacking output at this level.

I don't know about that, because what we have to remember is, Pacquiao's recovery isn't what it used to be, if he punches himself out, the minute would have been enough for him 5 years ago, but not now, Broner is in shape for this fight, he's 29, prime age. Pacquiao can be caught clean, can be timed, tagged on the counter, and if Broner can back Pacquiao up, land that 1, 2, Pacquiao can't drag it out of himself to make Broner pay for his low output in enough rounds to win the fight, I know Pacquiao moves his head, is a veteran, but I'm talking reflexes, timing, Broner can out time Pacquiao, get the right distance with the jab, and line Pacquiao up for the right hand, I just think Pacquiao is still not quite faded enough, Broner isn't great, doesn't have the mentality of a fighter who will give it 100%, and I don't think he will hold centre ring, Pacquiao will attack, back Broner up, and when he's in the corner, Broner, Pacquiao will go to work, land clean, and Broner will lose rounds. I think if Pacquiao gets into a good rhythm, Broner will be overwhelmed.

No, I think he edges an SD, I don't think Pacquiao is anywhere near as close to his best as he looked against Matthysse, Matthysse was very, very poor that night, and really, in terms of talent, potential, I would expect Broner to beat almost any 40 year old, I just don't think Broner has improved in the last few years. You?

How big a factor will size be in the Fielding vs Alvarez fight?

I wish more fighters could admit they lost a fight they did. Oscar did it with his Sturm fight.

I like the Brook vs Hurd fight, Hearn said if the fight with Khan falls through then they will target Hurd, which is a great fight.

I agree on that.

That's also true and sometime he backs off to avoid a Marquez like knockout again. I think he might hurt Pacquiao in the fight, but I think it will be something he won't capitalize on. He'll have his moments, just not consistent. I just think that Broner not being great and him not being 100 % focused on fighting will let him down. He just doesn't have that gear to adjust when an elite fighter is getting the better of him. I just feel Pacquiao will get in a good rythym and Broner will struggle.

I think he'll win by UD. I know he's past his prime, he's still good enough to beat someone like a Broner. Also about the Matthysse fight, he was a lot worse then he was expected and probably wasn't mentally at his best. He seemed to of taken a lot of damage from his other fights.

I think it will be tricky for Alvarez to figure out Fieldings height, then he will be able to get in a good ryhtym and figure him out. What do you think, and what chance do you give Fielding?

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Sorry, he didn't say he lost as far as I know, I just meant he looked like a man who knew he lost.

That's it, he has his moments, does great work, but that's exactly the right word, consistent, he is not consistent, that's his problem. We'll see exactly how far past it Pacquiao is. Another way to look at this fight, is that if Horn can beat Pacquiao, Broner can beat him when he's even older, but because Pacquiao is still not the shot fighter a lot of us thought he was, and Broner is no great fighter, I still think Pacquiao will edge him. He was coming off 2 wins, but his mentality was bad, Matthysse was terrible that night.

That's not what I think at all, I don't think size will be that much of a factor early, because Alvarez will have built himself up a bit, he will weigh a lot, and he is very strong, but the extra weight, inability to hurt his opponent, and the pressure as Fielding settles down, will be a factor in rounds 5-12, Alvarez is not that much bigger a light middleweight than Fielding is a super middleweight, I think Alvarez could make 156, Fielding couldn't make 166, and if he could, he would have to go through some weight cut, he has never been below 167, only a pound, but 1 pound can be all the difference. I think Fielding will hit Alvarez harder than Golovkin hit him, Fielding will soak up Alvarez's power, Alvarez will win because he's a level above Fielding, but I think it will be a very tough fight. I might be wrong, if Fielding isn't as good as I think he is, Alvarez lands that deadly body shot, then Fielding won't do as well as I think, but I think Fielding has a good chance

Broner is just not consistent, he doesn't follow up on his shots and just doesn't let his hands go. I think that cost him in the Vargas fight as well. That's what I think, Pacquiao isn't shot, but he's still good enough to beat Broner. Thurman, Spence and so on he would lose.

The weight difference makes this fight interesting. What do you think the end result will be?

Also, in a second watch of Fury vs Wilder, what did you take from it?

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His issues are mental, but I think talent wise, he could definitely be top 20 in the world, but he isn't, he hasn't made the most of his career, wasted his talent, he can make up for it, turn his career around with a win against Pacquiao, but for a big career changing win like this, it is the best time for him, it is now or never, because he is 29 now, in a couple of years, he'll be declining, and any other chance he gets to fight a name like Pacquiao, he probably won't be fighting such an old opponent, he can win this, I would wish him luck, but I don't, because I don't like him, I think he's nasty.

Alvarez by SD, I think Alvarez will win the first 4 rounds clearly, and the last 8 rounds will be very entertaining, Fielding will get the best of it overall, but Alvarez will win, he could be in trouble here, could lose, but his saving grace might be the fact that it is Fielding he is fighting and not Smith, Ramirez or Uzcategui, that and his chin.

Didn't really see a different fight, scored the same, but I did notice more, how absent Wilder's right hand was. The rematch should definitely be next in my opinion, it was a draw, Joshua is fighting in April and neither Wilder or Fury will fight before June or May at the absolute earliest unless I'm very wrong, there isn't a better option for Fury or Wilder, so as long as Fury gets in the gym and stays in shape in the weeks before camp, as long as he doesn't start camp over 300lbs, the rematch should happen, I would be rooting for Wilder, give him a 40% chance, but I would predict Fury to win, build the Joshua fight. You?