Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao Scorecard by albertocastany


scorecard by ALBERTOCASTANY
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FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.
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113
MANNY PACQUIAO
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115

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Chill Corey. I don't care what your opinion is on somebody's score, I don't think anyone posts to get laughed at. Doesn't matter if it is only over the computer. That doesn't make it right does it?

Champion97's picture

I don't think Corey meant to be rude.

Champion97's picture

It is a shame isn't it man, Manny looked so composed pre fight, I'm not commenting to criticize your scoring, everyone has the right to score fights the way they see them and you know me, I am NOT a Mayweather fan and Pacquiao is one of my favourites, it just seemed as if Manny wasn't really relaxed after the first 3 rounds, I think a rematch would be interesting. On the bright side Manny was the one landing with the hurtful punches, I take it that's why you think he won, shame but I'm sure Manny will be OK.

Zoe's picture

Round 7 was close. Rounds 10 and 12 Manny was busy. I can see this card.

Champion97's picture

I did find those rounds hard to score, just a terrible night for Manny, I thought it was a one sided fight to be honest, Would you like to see a rematch?

Zoe's picture

I hate giving an even round, and also I suspect it's easy for various bias to creep in when you are re-watching a round over and over trying to score it. But that being said, I need to re-watch round 7. I knew when I scored it it shouldn't be an even round.

I don't want to see a re-match. Do you? I would pay more than we paid for this fight to see a prime Manny Pacquiao fight again. But I don't think that's possible.

Champion97's picture

Yeah, it is a shame. A rematch is unlikely, it wouldn't be ridiculous to say Pacquiao should retire and so should Mayweather, there isn't much I can say about the fight that I haven't already said. BTW I have a friend who wants to be a judge on Eye on the ring, the more scorers the better right.

albertocastany's picture

Too many close rounds...that's a reason whhy I'm not saying It was a robbery. Even if I saw Manny win, Floyd was in almost every round procuring to keep control of the rythm of the fight, and not letting Manny set his game plan. I'm ok with the 116-112 cards for Floyd.

albertocastany's picture

Too many close rounds...that's a reason whhy I'm not saying It was a robbery. Even if I saw Manny win, Floyd was in almost every round procuring to keep control of the rythm of the fight, and not letting Manny set his game plan. I'm ok with the 116-112 cards for Floyd.

Champion97's picture

It can go a lot wider if you think about it, Manny only won 1 clear round, then again Manny did make 5 or 6 rounds close and test Floyd, do you think a Manny Pacquiao with both shoulders in tact could beat Floyd?, it is outrageous that he is getting punished for the whole injury thing. The main reason I can understand what you think of this fight is because of the fact that Manny hurt Floyd and was a threat to continue to hurt him for the rest of the fight but Floyd never hurt Manny.

albertocastany's picture

It's a fair result. I just don't like the fact it will go to the history books as a UD.

Although Manny offensive bursts weren't effective all the time, Mayweather wasn't very accurate and unable to land clean shots as he would normally do. They both nullified each other at some extent. Maybe Kenny Bayless should have deducted a point to Mayweather for so much holding, and that'd have changed the pace of the fight.

Champion97's picture

I don't agree about the point deduction, but I said time after time that Bayless would not punish Floyd, I can understand everything you said apart from Mayweather missing, OK he didn't land 100% of what he threw and he hit the gloves sometimes but to be fair he landed at a far better connect percentage than Pacquiao, Mayweather was able to counter with that right hand so easily all night. Manny Pacquiao was only ineffective most of the fight because he looked not half as fast on his feet as usual, he lost confidence after that terrible start and was not relaxed and Mayweather did what he does best, Pacquiao should have let Floyd chase him and let more combinations go, I did get a lot of hope in round 4 when Manny really hurt Floyd with that star ugh left and had a big spurt of success, I was impressed with Floyd choosing not to hold, Pacquiao was the more effective when he landed but that was so not often and in so many rounds he was being comfortably out boxed, he could not trap Floyd and he hut the shell a lot, scoring little.

On the other hand I do believe that all fighters can have a bad night every now and then and if they had a rematch, Manny started faster as he took more risks by letting the punches go and he had no shoulder injury or any other injury for that matter, one thing he could take positively into a rematch is that he can hurt Floyd but Floyd cannot hurt him. You know Alberto if you told me last year that I would be defending Floyd Mayweather to you I would not have believed you.

Champion97's picture

I agree about the point deduction, I said time after time that Bayless would not punish Floyd, I can understand everything you said apart from Mayweather missing, OK he didn't land 100% of what he threw and he hit the gloves sometimes but to be fair he landed at a far better connect percentage than Pacquiao, Mayweather was able to counter with that right hand so easily all night. Manny Pacquiao was only ineffective most of the fight because he looked not half as fast on his feet as usual, he lost confidence after that terrible start and was not relaxed and Mayweather did what he does best, Pacquiao should have let Floyd chase him and let more combinations go, I did get a lot of hope in round 4 when Manny really hurt Floyd with that straight left and had a big spurt of success, I was impressed with Floyd choosing not to hold but taunt Pacquiao instead, Pacquiao was the more effective when he landed but that was so not often and in so many rounds he was being comfortably out boxed, he could not trap Floyd and he hit the shell a lot, scoring little.

On the other hand I do believe that all fighters can have a bad night every now and then and if they had a rematch, Manny started faster as he took more risks by letting the punches go and he had no shoulder injury or any other injury for that matter then who knows?, I personally would lean towards Mayweather again, but it would be interesting, one thing he could take positively into a rematch is that he can hurt Floyd but Floyd cannot hurt him. You know Alberto if you told me last year that I would be defending Floyd Mayweather to you I would not have believed you.

I may have been impolite last year on the topic of your Porter vs Brook (when I was drunk, haha) and maybe Mayweather vs Maidana 1, something I apologise for, but I have always admired the way you are your own judge and you always justify your scores, without giving so much detail that people won't read, I know how it feels to have a card that is different to everybody else's and it is great that you won't let people bully you into changing your score, you are in a similar position to me a year ago when I scored Mayweather two rounds down against Maidana.

Personally I'll need to watch this one again before I can feel comfortable posting a score. It isn't easy to really watch a fight when you have five friends who don't know anything about boxing watching it with you. From what I did see it looked like Manny missed a couple of opportunities and his typical last minute of the round rallies came too late. He did do a better job though at making Floyd miss but I think Manny should have took a page from Maidana's book and start fast not letting Floyd get comfortable. The first mistake was made in the first round when Pacquiao tried to feel Floyd out. I'll probably score the fight closer than Lederman but probably will still have it for Floyd. I don't think Alberto's card is wrong though. I'm sure when I give the fight a second look I'll find out plenty of things that Floyd did wrong as well.

Champion97's picture

Alright pal, haven't spoken to you in a while, you know you were right when you made your prediction, I also think that your prediction for Garcia vs Peterson was closer to what happened than what I said, it is virtually impossible to score a fight properly when you have friends watching the fight with you unless they are scorers, in the eyes of people who like to watch boxing but don't know much about it Manny is the man and he won the fight. Manny is one of my favourites but he fought very badly overall, he was great in round 4 when he hurt Mayweather but although he could have won up to 4 other rounds in my opinion he was clearly out boxed and out smarted in the majority of the rounds, I can't believe that I am seeing this fight more Mayweather's way than other EOTR scorers, I have never been a Mayweather fan and have always been a Pacquiao fan but I thought Mayweather won the fight very comfortably and took it 117-111, I can easily see it closer but I just feel like people that say Manny actually won are people who are good scorers but are swayed by a great humble guy like Manny in against a skumbag like Floyd, I think the crowd and commentators might sway people's judgement, Manny was the more physically effective in that he hurt his opponent and did not get hurt but he was out boxed, where was the variety?, where were the angles?, where was the lateral movement?, I think Manny is a better boxer than we saw last night, I do believe he hurt his shoulder and I think he just had an off night, those first 3 rounds were awful and apart from in round 4 Manny never really looked relaxed and never got his confidence back. Pacquiao looked slow, predictable and ordinary at times. You know this makes Maidana look great and can get him tough but winnable fights in the future, you are so right about his first and huge mistake, Floyd was made to miss a bit but he was more accurate and landed with a higher connect percentage. Floyd didn't do much wrong, this is a horrible situation, Manny is a far better than the boxer than the guy that fought Mayweather and a rematch would be interesting.

It definately was a unanimous decision because the only people who think manny won are bias and reach incredibly to give him rounds. floyd held but it wasn't drastic or fight changing imo

Champion97's picture

I hope you don't mind us creating a full on comment invasion on your scorecard, haha.

albertocastany's picture

No Bias. Like I previously said, Manny wasn't very effective, but Mayweather wasn't landing many clean punches. Manny would parry or block a lot of Floyd's jabs and right crosses.

I might need to give it a second watch, but I just think Floyd gave away some of those rounds. Floyd jab was very good at keeping Manny at distance, and even control the pace of the fight at times. Then Manny would explode and get rounds (in my opinion of course) by activity.

Zoe's picture

I think I agree that both were ineffective. It's an interesting way to look at it. I would like to re-watch and I wouldn't be surprised if my card ended up changing.

albertocastany's picture

BTW....Compubox numbers are BS...don't even dare to bring those stats. I'd advise you to inquiry first on the quantification methodology. It's just plain BS and the approach is merely on quantity, not quality.

Champion97's picture

Thank you, I have always said that compubox is a load of shit, Pacquiao was active and put pressure on Floyd but he wasn't landing clean much in many rounds, he was hitting that shell and Floyd was able to land that right hand so easily all night long, I think you would have it the other way if you watched it again, at the end of the day mate some people will just laugh at your score and not listen to your justification, as long as you know that you are being fair. It doesn't matter what the site's worst scorer says about your scorecard, I did notice that Manny was discouraging Floyd when he landed but not vise vurser.

I think its poor to say that floyd "just gave away some rounds" its impossible for manny to steal a round when he was being outboxed, manny had to do much much better if he wanted to win and it just did not happen.. I think manny had 5 or so real good hard punches but that will only win over fans not real judges. In the replays I bet you notice floyd landing more good punches then you think or admit

I was talking to alberto einstein.. the 10-8 round I bullshitted in there was too raise awareness that floyd definitely won the 7th round

Champion97's picture

Sandwich sauce, potato flavoured chocolate cake, Mrs toadrice bakes a lovely carrot coffee.

This website is meant to raise awareness?

I was shocked to hear retards like skip bayless and a guy on here giving round 7 to manny. It wasn't floyds best round but it was a clear winner

Alberto is one of the best judges on this site. Also I thought I said to chill out with the language earlier. No one wants to read that. There's stating a point, and there's just being plain disrespectful.

pulling out the "name calling must mean something" card

I have watched espn first take many times and I am sure I know more about boxing then Skip Bayless.

Just because Skip covered an Ali fight does not mean he is a famous boxing analyst.. I would bet a alot, 500 dollars too sit down and talk some sense into him

Champion97's picture

Well Vock, anything is possible.

Why do you hate Mayweather? I understand if you hate his personal life, but that should carry no weight in the ring. There is a reason why it is called a personal life and all of my "insults and disrespects" have been in the ring or in the buisness (leanord) other then pointing out manny used to be a playboy, which in retrospect you already knew that.

albertocastany's picture

Just watched it again....scored 2nd round to manny...3rd round to Floyd....everything stays the same...I thought about the round 9 could have gone to Mayweather...that'd have been 114-114. I won't mind changing my scorecard...no point

Champion97's picture

Hi Alberto, Sorry if you weren't talking to me, it is just that I got this comment e- mailed to me. To be honest I agreed with most people in that Floyd clearly won the first 3, Manny clearly won round 4, 5 clearly for Mayweather, round 6 close, round 7 clear but close for Floyd, rounds 8 and 11 brilliant for Floyd, rounds 9, 10 and 12 very close rounds. You are a good judge and we all fully respect your scorecard, you are entitled to your opinion and to be honest I may see the fight more your way when I watch it for a second time.

BTW I know that you are a boxer and I was thinking it could be quite cool if all the EOTR scorers who are boxers themselves posted videos of them boxing on this site, maybe a mitt workout video on the pads or maybe just shadow boxing, what do you think?

Champion97's picture

Yeah man, I might post a shadow boxing video today or maybe tomorrow if I can, probably won't get one on the pads for a few weeks, it would be cool to see the real glassjoe in action, we've talked so much about what we are like as boxers, it would just be cool to see each other actually boxing in real life, I don't know how many scorers would really think it is a good idea but I'm glad you like the sound of it.

I'm about to watch Canelo vs Kirkland, couldn't be bothered staying up at 4:00am, not quite worth it. I just read your comment on your scorecard for May vs Pac, it's funny because I swear I said the exact same thing as you about the fight.

I swear I remember hearing Alberto saying that he boxed before. I thought he just didn't compete. I honestly can't think of any other scorers who are boxers. Do you have anyone in mind?

Champion97's picture

I remember Alberto saying he had had 1 proper fight, Robert SS7 is a boxer and so is Chritianthepearson. I think vock boxes. There are probably a few others.