Should be yeah, I'm not watching Haye ve Bellew, could you give me round by round uodats if you watch it?

So which round do you predict Haye to stop Bellew in?

Yes, and when he's caught, when he's fatuigued, when he's pushed to the absolute limit, you think Haye can dig deep like Bellew?, I highly doubt it, he isn't the warrior in this fight, I think Bellew might out box David Haye, he has a great jab when he let's it into the equation, he was a great amateur, he won ABAs, he can box on the back foot, his feet are faster than Haye's, come on Tony! Anybody who likes David Haye as a person, is either an idiot, or uninformed.

Well, I don't think he's any different to any other boxing YouTuber, watch his videos if you find them entertaining, but I'll definitely stick to watching videos of Paulie Malignaggi, Robert Garcia, Bernard Hopkins, Mikey Garcia, Keith Thurman, giving their insight, real experts. To me, all he was doing was doing was telling us what we already know, and hinting that he's just another one of these mislead fans who gullible and naive enough to say 'Garcia goes to the body, Thurman was hurt to the bidy against Collazo and Porter, he must be weak to the body'. Exactly, but we shouldn't get carried away, because if this tactic was that simple to put into practice, then every fighter out there would do it.

Well it depends on what kind of prediction videos your looking at, are you talking about Youtube channels like the one we saw earlier?, because that means nothing, or are you talking about predictions from boxers, trainers, ex boxers? because these are the people to learn from. Your rightm predictions are split, Thruman, as the more established welterweight and because of the suggestion from the Guerrero fights, and Garcias questionable wins, is much the favourite, but many think Garcia will win, for a start, Jessie Vargas, Mikey Garcia, Abel Sanchez, look,

These are predictions worth taking into account, from people who know what they're talking about,

http://www.boxingscene.com/danny-garcia-vs-keith-thurman-predictions-by-...

It is up to you, but in general, I would stay away from Youtube channels like this,

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.youtu...

It's just bored people with too much free time.

That's true, like Tony Bellew, for whatever reason, being challanged, and being in a fight people expect him to lose, brings the best out of him. He does, but Thurman made a couple of points about that, and one of them, was that early in the Guerrero fight, he wasn't really able to time him early, nkt until Guerrero slowed down, Harvia has great timing, but he has to a lot of adapting, I believe Thurman's timing is better.

I think the 'Danny finds a way to win' case, works against him, but also with him, he's in against another undefeated fighter, who has only ever not knocked out or beaten widely one opponent, Porter, who I believe, is better than anyone Garcia has ever faced, that line, ti me suggests, that finding a way, is a way of coming through adversity, sort of, on the other hand, it raises the point, that some fighters can look great, but when in trouble, won't have enough to dig deep, and come through it, Garcia certainly, is not one of those fighters, is Thurman as good at pulling something out of the bag when a fight is going away from him?, I believe so, because of what he was able to do against Porter, winning the last two rounds, and probably winning the fight.

Fair enough.

Yes, very much, he was gassing against Chisora, and he gassed against Thompson in round one or maybe two, he was knackered for the last half of the granny paced fight against Klitschko, sitting on the canvas for rests more times, than, I can't be bothered to think of a simile, but yes. Exactly, why is it only Spencer Fearon and Paulie Malignaggi that have acknowledged this? weight disadvantage is a massive disadvantage, but so is inactivity. He's my least favourite, I don't even like him as a fighter, this isn't really relevant to Bellew, but, short heavyweights, Evander Holyfield, he beat Riddick Bowe, he could work around height and reach, Joe Frazier, he beat Muhammad Ali, he could work around height and reach, David Haye, watch his fight gainst Klitschko, it showed us, he can't work around height and reach, this is related to Joshua vs Haye, and, to a lesser extent (for stylistic reasons), Wilder vs Haye.

No, but that's good.

Fair enough.

Yes, very much, he was gassing against Chisora, and he gassed against Thompson in round one or maybe two, he was knackered for the last half of the granny paced fight against Klitschko, sitting on the canvas for rests more times, than, I can't be bothered to think of a simile, but yes. Exactly, why is it only Spencer Fearon and Paulie Malignaggi that have acknowledged this? weight disadvantage is a massive disadvantage, but so is inactivity. He's my least favourite, I don't even like him as a fighter, this isn't really relevant to Bellew, but, short heavyweights, Evander Holyfield, he beat Riddick Bowe, he could work around height and reach, Joe Frazier, he beat Muhammad Ali, he could work around height and reach, David Haye, watch his fight gainst Klitschko, it showed us, he can't work around height and reach, this is related to Joshua vs Haye, and, to a lesser extent (for stylistic reasons), Wilder vs Haye.

No, but that's good.

My opinion is that they should all be left well alone, I do categorise and generalise them, and for those have learned a lot from real experts, want to discuss boxing, feel they are knowledgeable, setting up a YouTube channel isn't the answer.

That's great! It's always good to take potential and likely bias into consideration.

Good, don't, that's what I', saying, YouTube channels like that are fruitless in my opinion, and have no constructivism.

It is a very hard fight to predict, I really struggled with my prediction, but I believe Thurman will win, and it will be slightly easier than the Porter fight.

Something I fomd interesting is this obsession people have (probably related to this body punching runour, which is probably worth 5%of the attention it' sbeen given) with Thurman slowing down late, and Garcia doing that to him, Thurman won every round against relentless, strong, athletic, durable Bundu, won the last two rounds against Porter, Garcis lost the last round in a big way against Peterson and Herrera, and admitted he lost the last round against Guerrero as well, I'm not trying to argue aginst the fact that Garcia is a massive threat to Thurman, or even really arguing against the case that he wins (when making this point, because my prediction is Thurman winning), it's just an interesting point, I believe, I think it will be the mid roumds when Garcia could take over, I mean, if Bundu got a share of a round against Thurman, it was round 8, Porter hurt Thurman, in round 8, Collazo hurt Thurman in round 5, my point is, I think Garcia will do better in the middle rounds than peopel realise, and Thurman is capable of doing more in the late rounds, than people realise.