The Battle of Broken Jaw: Muhammad Ali vs. Ken Norton II Scorecard by Acerbitas


scorecard by ACERBITAS
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
MUHAMMAD ALI
10
10
10
10
10
10
8
9
9
10
9
10
115
KEN NORTON
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
114

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Acerbitas's picture

First 5 rounds went to Ali who danced well around the ring and fired his jab well. Round 6 had both fighters score well.Round 7 had Ali do very little and throws jabs that barely landed whilst Norton had him at the ropes and really worked him. Rounds 8 and 9 Norton worked harder again with Ali doing more than the he did in the 7th round. Round 10 was another round where both fighters shows much skill and definitely did not do better than each other. Round 11 for Norton and Round 12 was edged by Ali.
Great fight and collosal effort but Ali won 6-4-2

Ali is not that different from Mayweather tactically speaking. In my opinion Norton edged this one out by just being more healthy and physical down the stretch. Most of the time draw rounds are not awarded.

Champion97's picture

Yes mate, he is back, you're not having a bad dream, haha, just thought I should make sure you know that there is absolutely nothing wrong with you scoring even rounds, especially in a fight like this, if you genuinely believe that two boxers have evened each other up in different departments, such as one guy landing a little more but the other landing slightly better, then scoring the round even is probably the right thing to do, sorry about this joker.

Champion97's picture

Yes mate, he is back, you're not having a bad dream, haha, just thought I should make sure you know that there is absolutely nothing wrong with you scoring even rounds, especially in a fight like this, if you genuinely believe that two boxers have evened each other up in different departments, such as one guy landing a little more but the other landing slightly better, then scoring the round even is probably the right thing to do, sorry about this joker.

Champion97's picture

Forgot to mention, thanks for your input yesterday, I completely agree about Mayweather vs Pacquiao, and Mayweather vs Leonard would have been a very interesting fight that everybody would have been exited by, and it would have been competitive for sure, but I think Mayweather would have won comfortably because timing beats speed the majority of the time, that shoulder roll is something special, for all Leonard's attributes such as his blurring hand speed, but I think the difference would be that Floyd would anticipate Ray's attempts at success, but Ray wouldn't be able to do the same to Floyd, however you and many, many others are all entitled to your valid opinions, and Leonard beating anybody in his weight in any past or present era is not ridiculous.

Champion97's picture

If you like I could send you a list of all even rounds that have been scored by boxing experts in big fights, I could find you say 50 examples, or more, scoring even rounds was rare in this era, and then it got very common in the Benn and Eubank era, and then it got a lot rarer, it is rare but it can still happen, and just because officials rarely score even rounds doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it.

Now you have not been doing this for a while, your behaviour has been improving, you've been a good boy, please do not spoil it now!

Acerbitas's picture

What are you thoughts on Tommy Hearns vs Floyd Mayweather Jr. It is a popular opinion that out of Leonard, Duran and Hearns that Heanrs would give Mayweather Jr the most trouble. Hearns could box but his incredible punching ability against Mayweather Jr's defence. Does Hearns score an early knockout or does Floyd survive and win the UD. What do you think champion97.

Champion97's picture

TBH, I think Floyd win a a quite comfortable UD, I think that due to the known power and also the reach which would make his power a bigger threat, Floyd would be very caucious and the rounds would be very quiet, but Floyd would win many of them in my opinion, I think He arms would be successful in the occasional spot, but it would make no difference on the scorecards, I think Hearns would be so bemused, and would freeze mentally, I think he would have no idea how to deal with the defensive skills of Mayweather, and that lateral movement would be an absolute nightmare, without nay doubt in my mind I think out of Hagler, Leonard, Hearns and Duran Hagler gives Mayweather the toughest fight, becuase he can brawl on the inside and fight on the outside, because he is so dangerous, because he was southpaw, because how unorthodox he was, because of those lighting hands, and many other reasons, I don't think any welterweight beats Mayweather until the best welterweight champion in 2040 (just an estimate), and from then on welterweight will come along who can beat Mayweather more and more easily.

Hearns is too big and strong for Mayweather. Remember, Tommy did not get outboxed at all in his two fights with SRL. if fact hearns won most of the rounds and just flat out gassed out in the 1981 showdown. Hagler would also be too big. In a SRL-FMjr. fight I would give the edge to mayweather but would not count out SRL..... I get a kick out of you fellows calling me a tool or a low life... Champ fails to realize what he is typing and he thinks he has a right to do it just because I crossed the line in the past. It's like the 'he hit me first' thing on the playground. How's life going for you guys? I have missed you dearly....

Acerbitas's picture

Well vock I have to say once we are in total agreement. SRL was losing the first Hearns fight before the knockout and Floyd isn't as strong as SRL and the second fight I had him winning about 2 points. Hagler is probably the most underrated of the fabolous four in terms of that everyone only talks about SRL and Duran but Hagler was also a genius. Hagler took the best shots of Hearns and Mugabi because he had one of the best chins ever, he could switch easily to southpaw and could adapt his style from being a brawler to a boxer depending on the fight. Hagler wins a comfortable UD or Floyd gets caught with a right hook and it's over.

Champion97's picture

Hearns was never as strong as Maidana, Hearns seemed to be very boxing in a very controlled way against Leonard, but he did not simply 'win most of the rounds', very many of them were very close, Leonard's work rate and blurring, fast combos were troublesome for him, I agree about Mayweather beating Leonard.

I criticise you for things you do a matter of hours prior to my comments, if you tried to get along with people rather than starting conflict then there would be no problem, I relive what I'm typing, all I'm doing is telling you to stop trying to start arguments. You know we have missed you dearly, I suppose we need a bad guy, hahaha, BTW I take it the fairy god 17 year old has not yet approached you, but like I said, just hang in there vock, you will meet her soon and she will use her wand to cure your troubles, and she will help you release the demon within.