Should Keith Thurman be in danger of having his titles stripped?

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Should Keith Thurman be in danger of having his titles stripped?

Keith Thurman pulled out of his tune-up fight in May meaning that even with a quick turn around, Thurman will have fought twice in three years and would not have fought in almost a year and a half. In my view, this is simply an unacceptable activity level for a unified champion and puts key Welterweight match-ups in limbo. The WBC hasn't called a mandatory defense on the Welterweight title in some time and has recently placed Shawn Porter as the mandatory challenger. The WBA doesn't have a mandatory but Matthysse is the paper titlist. Personally, I think if Thurman can't get in the ring versus a guy like Porter by the end of this year, he should be stripped of his titles. It is unfortunate but I think Thurman's career is going to be wasted because of his injuries. What do you think?

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I think it is a tough spot for everybody to be in, if you are Keith Thurman's manager, you are going to defend him, it isn't a privileged decision to fight less frequently than most of think he aught to, he is suffering with injuries, on the one hand, a lot of fighters fight with injuries, still win, and don't suffer any ramifications, on tne other hand, we don't know how bad the injuries are.

You can also say, sorry, but this is a sport, and as much as Keith Thurman does not deserve to be punished for being injured and possibly wisely pulling out of fights, Errol Spence Jr, Jeff Horn, they deserve the opportunity to unify, Shawn Porter, Terence Crawford, Danny Garcia, they deserve opportunities to fight for world titles (no reason why not the WBA and WBC), and by extension, the opportunity to unify themselves.

I think now, Thurman should be stripped of one of his titles, because he is keeping half the 147 lb titles hostage, not his fault, but it is not good for boxing. I think because everyone is suffering, there should be a compromise, Thurman should lose a belt, keep a belt. Sooner or later, if Thurman wants to remain a world champion, he should be ordered to fight Spence/Crawford, unification fights are great to see, Adonis Stevenson shouldn't have been allowed to hold the WBC 175 lb belt the way he has for all these years.

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I agree, those guys have the right to fight for a vacant title. The WBA and WBC don't make any money off of Thurman sitting on the shelf so I personally think he will be stripped of at least one title in the not so distant future.

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At this stage, I think Thurman should vacate the WBA and retire, if he isn't coming back, because it has been a year and a half, these are the best years he's wasting, so in my opinion, he should lose the WBA, and maybe have Ugas vs Berto for that title, or the winner of Vargas vs Dulorme.

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I think he is going to come back by the end of the year, but it isn't going to be versus a good opponent at all. It'll be versus someone at the Samuel Vargas level which is not something I want to watch. It will likely have to be someone in the WBA top 15 though which Samuel Vargas somehow is. There has to be a backroom reason of why the WBA haven't stripped Thurman yet, Thurman is with Haymon after all who has a lot of power. The WBA makes shameless decisions to make more money and they make nothing off Thurman sitting on their title without defending it. They haven't bothered to call a mandatory on Thurman in over two years either so they'd be in the right by calling a mandatory on him or stripping him. If they do strip him it won't be Ugas or Berto fighting for the title because they aren't ranked by the WBA. I sure as hell don't want to see Andre Berto fight for a title in 2018 either so that's fine by me. The #1 is Jose Benavidez and the #2 is Jessie Vargas, that would be a good fight but I don't know if it would happen promotionally. I don't know if they will do this but they could make Thurman the champion in recess like they have done with Lebedev and Chagaev previously and upgrade Pacquiao to the full champion. He will provide a big payday for them in sanctioning fees as well. Alternatively, they could try to force Pacquiao vs. Khan by making it for the full title since they want to make Khan the mandatory for Pacquiao's paper title.

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Me neither. Well whichever, doesn't have to be that fight, just a suggestion, but I definitely think Thurman shouldn't have the title, but I understand, money, power, it is that simple. Well if Vargas comes through Dulorme, that would be some fight, and if for a title, they could get it sorted, if the Crawford fight would be likely for the winner, because there has been a lot of talk of Crawford vs Benavidez, and although I don't care for it, promoters love a grudge match, because it sells. I think that ship has sailed, is a 17 month inactive champion a champion in recess?, I think a year, 15 months maybe, but at a certain point, I think they should simply not be a champion. Yeah that would be fair, but I don't see that happening. Although, if Pacquiao has one last fight, wants Lomachencko and not Crawford, he'll vacate, because Lomachencko won't go to 147, so would there be any point in him being the champion?

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I wouldn't have a problem with Vargas vs. Dulorme being for a vacant title either, but I don't think it will happen because Dulorme isn't ranked by the WBA. I really don't think Vargas would fight Crawford if he won, but if Benavidez won then that would be the logical fight to make. I would just like it if they got another title out of PBC's control, it would help reduce some of the stagnation at Welterweight. Champion in recess only entitles them to a mandatory status when they come back, so I wouldn't really have a problem with Thurman getting it but I'd prefer if they outright stripped him. I don't know if Pacquiao vs. Lomachenko will happen unfortunately, it seems like the Lomachenko side is making a lot of demands as if they are the A-side when Pacquiao will be the one bringing the money to the fight. If Pacquiao were to be promoted to the full champion I definitely think Top Rank would make a big offer to Pacquiao to fight Crawford, I don't think he will do that either though because it is a dangerous fight for Pacquiao unless they made a crazy offer. Out of all of the low possibility scenarios I've presented I think Pacquiao vs. Khan for the real title would be the most realistic, Fast Eddie has a good relationship with the WBA and he has the money to put on Pacquiao vs. Khan which would be a good fight for what it is.