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New Super Series

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"While the first two World Boxing Super Series tournaments are headed to the finals at cruiserweight and super middleweight, organizers are getting ready to unveil a second season of tournaments. They will take place at junior welterweight and bantamweight, multiple sources told ESPN. The fields are not 100 percent complete but, according to sources, the eight-man junior welterweight field will likely include Regis Prograis, world titleholder Kiryl Relikh, who would take on mandatory challenger Eduard Troyanovsky in the quarterfinals, and Ivan Baranchyk and Anthony Yigit, who would fight for a vacant world title in the quarterfinals. The bantamweight field is expected to include three world titleholders, Zolani Tete, Ryan Burnett and Emmanuel Rodriguez, who won a vacant belt Saturday."

Bantamweight tournament will be loaded. What do you guys think? Do you like these tournaments or no?

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Thinking of these tournaments makes me wonder what a tournament in each weight class would look like. So, I wanted to propose how I think a tournament in each class should look like, and how I think it would play out. For me, having an 8 man tournament, with the intention of unification and bringing in the top contenders, would be the best route to go. I'll start from proposal from the heaviest to the lightest.

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Heavyweights:
Seeded 1-8

1) Anthony Joshua IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO Titles 21-0
2) Deontay Wilder WBC Title 40-0
3) Joseph Parker 24-1 Most recent titlist
4) Tyson Fury 25-0 Lineal claim
5) Alexander Povetkin 34-1 Top Contender status
6) Dillian Whyte 23-1 Top Contender status
7) Luis Ortiz 28-1 Top Contender status
8) Jarrell Miller 21-0-1 Top Contender status
Potential fill-ins- Breazeale, Charr, Pulev

1 v 8 matchup
Joshua v. Miller

What needs to be said about AJ that we don't already know. He is big, skilled, and holds the #1 spot for a reason. Miller is big, technically sound, and young. Though AJ lacks some athleticism, which leads to some head movement issues, that is about his only flaw. Miller has skills, but lacks power for his size, and may be too big to go a strong 12 with a world level fight. I see AJ working behind the jab, and wearing Miller down, either leading to a late stop, or an easy UD. AJ moves on

2 v 7 matchup
Wilder v. Ortiz II

A rematch of an amazing fight. Gives Ortiz a shot at redemption, as he fought a beautiful fight before being caught and gassed. Gives Wilder another opportunity to prove it against a guy who showed people a lot of flaws in his game. I think Wilder doesn't let the fight get as far as it did previously, as he would know where Ortiz is dangerous. Wilder by mid stoppage.

3 v 6 matchup
Parker v. Whyte

In a match with 2 men with a lot to prove, one a former titlist and another a top contender with hopes of proving himself a true World level contender. Parker is smooth and slippery, with great stamina, solid power, and an iron chin. Whyte is skilled, does good work to the body, and has size enough to impose his will. I think this fight would be a coin flip, but would end in a close decision for the more seasoned Parker. Parker moves on.

4 v 5 matchup
Fury v. Povetkin

In a matchup of the Lineal champ, and a man who has only lost to a Klitschko, we see a contrast in styles that would be very interesting. Fury, assuming he returns to form, is tall, rangy, slick on the move, and able to throw from awkward angles that can frustrate opponents. His size alone makes it tough to touch him. Povetkin is a classic, barrel ahead puncher, in the vein of Mike Tyson. He can hit with immense power, and has shown he can touch guys, even with a height disadvantage. Though Povetkin is tough, and was able to ferociously knock out a similarly tall Price his last go around, Fury is no Price, and has shown that he can frustrate a variety of fighters, including the best Heavy in the world for his last fight. I think Fury would work behind his jab, use his size and slipperiness to work Povetkin and avoid getting caught with the big overhand. Fury by UD.

1 v 4
AJ v Fury

In a battle that would be monumental for the sport, but would absolutely set the UK on fire, AJ and Fury would settle the question once and for all about who is the true champion. Assuming, again, that Fury returns to form, he offers a similar test to AJ that he did Klitschko. Just looking at the 2, you'd think this is easy work for AJ. He is big, strong, and built like a tank, with skills to back it up. But he also lacks some movement due to his. WK has many of these same problems. I think Fury would use the same tactics against AJ, and find a similar result. Fury on by SD, retaking the titles that he vacated in retirement.

2 v 3
Wilder v Parker

The free swinging Wilder would be tested by someone like Parker who could not only move, but also take shots better than anyone Wilder has ever faced. Will Parker be able to do enough to fluster Wilder into making a mistake, while also avoiding the big shot from Wilder? I think Parker could look good for a few rounds, as he'd make Wilder work for it like he did against AJ, but eventually the Bronze Bomber would catch him and, even with the chin than Parker has, he gets sparked late by Wilder.

Final
Fury and Wilder

In a major contrast of styles, we see the most dangerous puncher in the division vs. the biggest and possibly most slippery fighter in the division. Both have size, both have reach, and both have awkward styles that will either make for a great, or very ugly fight. Fury will try to pick and pop, then cover to stop Wilder from timing him out. While I think this is the right tactic, I think he would spend too much time avoiding big shots from Wilder, while letting Wilde score and win rounds. I think Wilder wins by late TKO, or closish UD, unifying the division.

Thoughts on this scenario?

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On those fights.

Joshua stops Miller, but it is not an easy fight.
Agree on Wilder vs Ortiz II.
Parker beats Whyte, wide.
Agree on that, as long as we are talking Fury in at least two fights' time, and he continues to do everything right.
Absolutely not in my opinion, AJ stops Fury.
No I think Parker would take Wilder 12, but I agree Wilder wins.
I think Wilder knocks Fury out cold, as in, one great up, a single shot, Fury does not get counted, he gets seen to by ring inspectors and paramedics if necessary.

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I just see so many of the same issues that Wlad had when I look at AJ. Too muscular, to the point it makes him a target too easy to hit. Lacks great head movement, and stays on a straight line for a guy as tall as Fury. Plus, AJ would have a hard time landing his best shot, that uppercut, on a guy so tall and slippery. It's the same reason I think Wilder would beat him. Size(height) and athleticism.

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The winner of Inoue vs. McDonnell is also in, hopefully, they get the two guys who are fighting for the vacant WBC title so they can have an undisputed champion as the winner. Bantamweight is a great division so I am excited that they are going to do it. These tournaments are great but they only work in non-marquee divisions and/or divisions where there aren't promotional/television conflicts so we will never see one at Heavyweight/Middleweight/Welterweight.

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I think the tournaments are great! Before I think about what other tournaments would great, I just appreciate that us boxing fans can see great tournaments like the Ali Trophy, and the one at 147, plus this new one at 118.

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It's a pipe dream but I wish there are tournaments for every weight classes, with each tournament concluding by having four belts around one waist.