10-8 rounds (no KD or deduction)

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10-8 rounds (no KD or deduction)

Can you think of some fights that had a round:
1. You scored 10-8 with no knockdowns
2. A judge or commentator scored 10-8 (whether you agree or not?)
3. Very tough to decide if it should have been scored 10-9 or 10-8

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I scored Round 5 of John John Molina vs Tony The Tiger Lopez 10-8 for Molina with no KD
at the 6:45 mark is where the round starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC1xQWmbHOs

What would you score it?

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I might call this a 10-9 but it's close, Lopez was in trouble briefly but was able to continuously fight back and keep it together

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Appreciate the feedback.

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One where I did not agree with the judge

1 judge scored Camacho vs Rosario (Both rounds 5 & 11) 10-8 rounds for Rosario where the other 2 judges did not. I think Rosario won them wide but not what I would call 10-8 wide.

How about you?

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This is an interesting topic, at first I thought it was about whether you should score 10-10 or 9-9, which is a pointless topic, but this is an interesting topic, because it is about the scoring itself who wins what.

Joshua vs Klitschko round 5, 10-8, could have been 10-9, one judge gave it 10-9
Thurman vs Lopez round 7, 10-9, could have been 10-8, all the judges gave it 10-8
Wilder vs Ortiz round 7, 10-9 could have been 10-8, all the judges gave it 10-8
Broner vs Maidana round 9, could have been 10-8, don't know about the judges

I would sooner give Lopez a 10-8 against Thurman than Ortiz against Wilder, it was a bad beating, had him out on his feet, but it was 45 seconds, no more, Lopez had Thurman on the egde of a stoppage for most of the round.

For the record, I think we should consider that usually, a possible 10-8 round with no KD or PD, is a more damaging round than a round you are dropped in, if you think about the examples, and Khan against Maidana in round 10, against Diaz in round 11.

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I scored a 10-8 when Josesito Lopez nearly stopped Keith Thurman earlier this year. Also one of the rounds Joe Joyce was battering Stiverne's brains in with little resistance I thought a 10-8 was appropriate.

They should be more prevalent in my opinion. If a fight would likely be stopped and the fighter is saved by the bell thats a 10-8

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Thanks for the feedback! I am going to put these on my to watch/score list. If you think of any others let me know. As it stands it is tough to determine what warrants 10-9 or 10-8 in one sided rounds. I do agree with the poster above who said it should be more prevalent. It would be nice (but probably just as controversial lol) if we used the full scoring spectrum.

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Round 10 of Khan Vs. Maidanna.

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Obviously Pacquiao-De La Hoya round 7 if iirc. all three offical judges and lederman.
Also Mayweather vs. Gatti a few of them. not sure on off.judges, but I think Lederman did.

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I'm probably forgetting some but these were all 10-8 rounds imo.

Adrien Broner - Antonio DeMarco, 5th round
Floyd Mayweather - Arturo Gatti, 6th round
Amir Khan - Marcos Maidana, 10th round
John Duddy - Luis Ramon Campas, 9th round
Timothy Bradley - Ruslan Provodnikov, 2nd round

The 9th round of Broner-Maidana, the 8th round of Thurman-Lopez, along with several rounds of Matthysse-Provodnikov & Pacquiao-De La Hoya easily could've been scored 10-8 imo.

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I’m all for more liberal use of the 10 point ‘must’ system. Consider that, in a close, competitive round, we score 10-9 for the guy that we feel edged it out (10-10 if it really is too close to call, though that tends to be frowned upon). So, at the other end of the competitive spectrum, in a round where fighter A comprehensively outboxes his opponent, thoroughly dominates and outclasses fighter B, is it still justifiable to score THAT round by the same 10-9 margin? Does a 1 point advantage really reflect what transpired in those 3 minutes, relative to other individual rounds? I would suggest that, even in the absence of a knockdown, or fighter B getting rocked to his boots, there is ample justification in such a round to go 10-8.
A recent example would be the final round of Usyk-Gasiev. The whole fight was a masterclass from Usyk, arguably a shutout. However, Usyk really went to town on Gasiev in the 12th, landing sooo many punches, I personally scored it 10-8. His utter dominance in those 3 minutes warranted a distinction from the previous 11 rounds in my opinion.
Historically, I would have scored a number of 10-8 ‘boxing dominance’ rounds for Pernell Whitaker. When he was in his prime and really smoking.

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Round 12 of Juan Manuel Lopez vs Rogers Mtagwa. I scored it a 10-8 round for Rogers Mtagwa. Lopez was clearly out on his feet, he kept wobbling and stumbling around the ring and using the ropes a lot for leverage. There was a questionable slip on that round too which I believe had the fight not been in Lopez's home town might've been ruled a KD.