Roberto Duran vs. Iran Barkley Scorecard by mike25


scorecard by MIKE25
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ROBERTO DURAN
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114
IRAN BARKLEY
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113

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You enjoy this fight?

Yeah this fight was a classic for sure and could've went either way in my opinion. I thought Duran edged it by a little in the last round. We had an almost similar card.

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We had an almost identical card, the whole fight was great, Barkley with his accurate, clever offence, constant movement, high work rate, and just all round boxing skill, Duran with his effective, hardcore, educated pressure throughout the night, his hard, quality punching to both the head and body, the real precision on his punches, and of course, he courage, the same has to be said for his opponent, that was a great last round from both of them, both knowing the fight is so close and they could nick it in the last 3 minutes, Duran landing the harder, better, more telling punches (pushing his opponent back), Barkley nit stopping moving, throwing all the punches he has in him, keeping his accuracy up, out landing and out scoring his opponent, great finish to a great fight, although I didn't care for any of the scorecards really, I especially don't like 118-112. I think Duran scoring the knockdown is the reason the majority of the people say he won, that is not taking anything away from him, a knock down is a great achievement, and in a close, 7-5/115-113 either way fight, a knock down can make all the difference, I wouldn't condone any scorecards giving Barkley any more than my card gave him, but I can see Duran being ahead by as many as three. What I think is funny, and very interesting is that there are people out there who would look on this site, and criticise us for being 'fans, and just that', but looking at the main fight page for this fight, 10 amateur judges, all of us scoring the fight fairly, and look at the three professionals, the officials 'who must be right' all screwed up.

You always have great recommendations like this, hagler vs Leonard, Duran vs leonard trilogy and the morales vs Barrera trilogy. The first half of the fight I thought Barkley dominated with accuracy . Then at the end I thought Duran picked it up and edged it at the end. That knockdown gave him so much momentum. I definitely agree about the 116-112 scorecard being ridiculous, both fighter won at least 5 rounds. That's horrible when judges give wide margins for close fights. It's ridiculous and it discredits the hard work a fighter put in for that fight.

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Thanks man, so do you, Gonzalez vs Estrada was probably the best one you suggested. Abraham vs Smith was one of those situations, it was one of those fights where at the end you and everyone else you speak to agree that a couple of points either way or a draw is what it is in terms of scoring, and that's all there is to it, and then the judges all scored the fight widely in favour of Abraham, it was just such a sad ending to a great event.

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I highly recommend you watch Hearns vs Barkley II.

I saw that to. I'm really confused what he's getting arrested for if his car was filled of bullet holes.

Also I finally found some time and will watch a couple of those fights you recommended

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Yeah well, whatever happened, he's a man who flushes money down the toilet, literally, says he is glad his cheating ex miscarried, strangles waitresses, and goodness knows what else, if the Gervonta Davis fight happens one day, when Davis has some more experience, and is stronger, I think he might be able to beat him. I don't think Porter vs Broner II is a bad idea, maybe they have it in Cleveland, what's that from you? 40 miles?, would you see that fight live?, I think Porter would beat him wider the second time around.

Cool.

I watched a show on Pritchet Colon earlier, devastating, I will pray for his recovery, medicine, over the years, I think is improving, and more and more people are surviving, hopefully, one day, something wonderful will happen.

That piece of shit Terrell or whatever his name was and that terrible referee should both be severely punished.

That whole thing that just happened with him is confusing. I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Davis. He would have to move up a lot in weight to do it but it's possible down the line. The Porter rematch can be worthwhile. I think Porter will win one sided again. I don't think it can get anymore one sided than what it was before unless he has a clean sweep of all the rounds. I would definitely go see it live in Cleveland,

What show on him? I would be interested in seeing that. I was actually big on him before his big injury and could've been great in the 154 division today. It's such a sad story. He's improving, but slowly, I saw he was responsive which is a good sign.

They both should have severe punishments.

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Sorry for bashing your man Broner, Just don't liek the guy, but if you like him pal, that's good enough for me, he is a great fighter. I think Broner vs Peterson is a great fight, but maybe he could fight Granados again, I believe he would beat him decisively.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.youtu...

Great sign!

Hey, it's your opinion if you don't like him you don't have to. I like Broner vs Peterson to but I think it won't happen

I'll watch it at some point.

I added a picture for Joshua vs Klitschko, what do you think? I'll try to add some more.

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Awesome, well done, scorers will appreciate it, keep up the good work.

I'm writing my prediction analysis for Joshua vs Klitschko.

Also, what do you think of Arizona as a state?

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Awesome, well done, scorers will appreciate it, keep up the good work.

I'm writing my prediction analysis for Joshua vs Klitschko.

Also, what do you think of Arizona as a state?

I added a few more for the upcoming fights. I figured out how to do it now.

I will write a short one on the card sometime soon.

I don't mind it.

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Well done, great stuff! I'll make sure you get the credit.

Yeah cool. Do you know why Berto vs Porter isn't Porter vs Berto?, there isn't a title listed on boxrec.

Have you been?

Thanks.

I'm not sure to be honest.

No not yet.

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The grand Canyon looks awesome, and so does the city of Phoenix.

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Was it you who uploaded Walsh vs Murray?
You see that's what Walsh did which the Garcias should do, like Herrera and Peterson, Murray made the fight very close, it was an MD, but Walsh did what I think was the fairest thing to do, he rematched him, and it was a completely different fight, Walsh made the adjustments, and stopped the guy in five rounds, and was ahead at the time of the stoppage. I hope Walsh beats Davis.

Yeah I added it. I wanted to add a Liam Walsh fight and I find the close ones interesting to score. He did the right thing and gave him a rematch at a reasonable time zone to. I'm rooting for Davis since I know more about him.

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Well done. Good thinking. That's right.
Ok, but without question, I'm rooting for Walsh, Davis seems like a nice enough guy too, but Walsh, never, and I mean, never trash talks. I think Walsh will win.

We should compare cards for the Walsh vs Murray fight. I'm about to watch Thompson vs Solis right now. I like both it's just I know more about Davis.

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Yeah ok. I had it 39-37 Walsh before the stoppage in the rematch. Yeah, cool. Ah that's fair enough, Davis seems like a good guy, I mean, I don't judge him for aggressive confrontations with Tevin Farmer and Adrien Broner, it seemed to me as if Farmer was trying to provoke Davis more than vise verse. Liam Walsh has to be one of the nicest guys in boxing, just a top bloke, if Davis wins, I'm sure he will be gracious in defeat. It should be a great fight, I'm not writing Davis off, but Walsh has so much more experience, and is much more skilled all round I think, that I think he will be too much for Davis, I do think it is more about a gulf on experience rather than talent though, I mean, can you be 22 and not be inexperienced? If Walsh wins, then hopefully he can secure a unification fight, and take on the best in his division.

I think a somewhat forgotten fighter is Oscar Valdez, I think Valdez vs Russell would be a great fight.

I like him. I was looking forward to see him fight way before he became popular. Even though he fought an off form Pedraza, he still deserves credit for doing it with less championship expierence than him. I believe you when you say that Walsh is a good person. There is a gulf in expierence, but I still feel Davis will pull it off.

I forgot about him to. The fight with Russell is a good one.

Also are you watching Porter vs Berto tomorrow night?

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Oh yeah absolutely, it is something we have to take into account, but that doesn't necessarily change very much at all. It was a fantastic achievement for him to have beaten Pedraza, a genuine world champion, and to do it in such explosive fashion. More than experience, he has great skills, is strong, I really hope Walsh wins, especially, because he's 30, and Davis is 22, Davis has more career time ahead of him. Fair enough, I won't be shocked if he loses, but I really believe, and am fairly confident, that Walsh will win wide.

Yes I will be, looking forward to seeing Porter shove humble pie down Berto's throat, and win well, I think he should do, I'm confident of him getting the stoppage.

The main reason I'm picking Davis to win is because I really do believe that he showed a lot in his last fight and that can carry on into this. He is a strong puncher and he showed very good defense and head movement against Pedraza, something I haven't seen in other fights. I can be wrong though.

I'm rooting for Porter to beat Berto. Are you not a fan of Berto? I like him a little bit but I didn't know he was cocky. I think he will beat him in a one sided decision, winning 1-3 rounds. Is it on box nation or sky sports?

About box nation and sky sports, does sky sports just do like more fights that are around Europe and Hearns fighters, and boxnation show the fights from America and Frank Warrens fighters?

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I see that, but I don't think he will use those tactics against Walsh, with Walsh's style, I really think Walsh will win wide, and I really, really hope I'm right.

He's a dickhead isn't he?, I mean, I'm a fan of his as a fighter, I like his 'pull it out the bag' style, you know, the way he came from being out boxed against Ortiz and Lopez, and stopped them both.

I don't think so, I think he will win via stoppage, maybe in round 8-10, with two rounds being up for dispute, Porter decisively winning the rest.

SkySports.

No not necessarily, I mean, all Mayweather's fights since Alvarez and probably Guerrero were on Boxnation, but Mayweather vs Pacquiao was on SkySports, and that was because it was of interest to anyone who is interested in Sports in general, but Porter vs Brook, Thurman vs Porter, Khan vs Alexander, Degale vs Jack, Golovkin vs Geale, all on SkySports, and I've seen many European events on Boxnation, especially in Germany, there isn't really any predictability about it. Frank Warren is a shithouse, he's just lost Jamie Cox, hopefully all his other fighters will go to Hearn, GBs real promoter.

We'll find out May 20th.

He is but he isn't on Broner level. He's cocky but it isn't horribly bad. I would like to see Prter beat him. Although I am a fan of Berto, I liked when he avenged his loss to Ortiz, I was very happy for him.

That's interesting. I think all fighters that have the choice to go to Hearn or Warren go to Hearn. He will find fights for opponents quick and get good pay days for his fighters.

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Yes, and if Walsh is simply beaten by the better man, I will be happy for Davis, if he beats Walsh, one can not deny him that level of respect at that point.

Berto isn't on Broner's level?, I think Broner is better than Berto, but I think we disagree about how good Broner is, maybe, maybe not. I'd rather not have a conversation on that topic, but I did bring it up to be fair. Yeah so was I, Ortiz is someone I feel sorry for, but some fighters don't have what it takes to survive at the top level, and I mean, embracing his opponent during the fight, and not just that, not even during the break, I mean, all you do there is nod, maybe touch gloves, it's bad to be nasty outside of the ring in my opinion, but you shouldn't be nice during round time.

He's doing that right now, I mean, what fights has he failed to make apart from Golovkin vs Eubank and Brook vs Khan?, both of which didn't work only because one of the two fighters, managed to sabotaged the fights.

Whoever wins should get credit.

I didn't mean in terms of fighting. I meant trash talking. Berto doesn't trash talk like Broner does. I think Broner is better than Berto to. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Very true those fights weren't his fault for not being made.

I'm on round 10 of Walsh vs Murray and have it 95-95

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Always a chance of a draw of course, if I were a big fan of Davis, I mkght even root fro a draw, that way they keep their unbeaten records, but I hope Walsh wins, though like I say, if the fight turns out the way I think it will, Davis will only gain experience, and use the defeat to his benefit in the future.

Oh right yeah, no worries.

Froch vs Groves II, Haye vs Bellew, Crolla in many big fights, Joshua vs Klitschko, Martin vs Joshua, Callum Smith in a world title eliminator soon hopefully, many others, I mean, the Furys can say what they like, it doesn't take a genius or a great deal of research to see that Hearn is the main man for getting us the fights we want to see, I mean the amount of abuse the eyeball gauger John and Tyson Fury fire at Hearn, it's shit man.

I will be happy for Walsh if he pulls it off. This is a good fight for Davis, like you said he can gain expierence.

Very true. If I was Fury, I would dump Warren and go to matchroom. He can put him in good fights and work him back up to a champion possibly. Personally I think he should stay retired.

Billy joe Saunders is fighting Khurtside in July or August. Thought on that?

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We can agree that it wouldn't be bad to see either fighter win.

I think if he was a nice guy, you might want him to return at some point, but because he is a sexist piece of shit, we want him out of this sport, and to be forgotten. I agree on Fury.

The guy is a threat, I understand that timing beats speed, I understand that Saunders is the more talented fighter, I understand that it is to be expected that he is the favourite, but power, use of power, athleticism, activity, ability at a ceratin level, durability, heart, this can be enough to overwhelm the opponent and maybe even win the fight which is why I think Lemiuex might have the beating of BJS if they fought, but I think Saunders comes through Khurtside, tough though, very tough.

True.

Also true.

I like Khurtside. He is short for the weight and very tough. For now I might lean towards Saunders, but his recent inactivity might hurt him. Maybe get him a quick 8 rounder non title fight or something to get ready. I doubt it thought.

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Saunders is just like Fury. I hope he loses the belt soon, disrespecting Jackbs and Canelo, two better men than him, and far better boxers, he loves his whole "on form/off form" excuse, well, let's put it this way, Jacobs, off form, boxes the ears off an on form BJS. And Canelo stops him, when he was beating Amir Khan, grinding in the gym, and winning the world title, BJS was sat, gobbling burgers, downing lager, talking s***, who's the s***bag?, not Canelo.

I use to back Saunders up all the time and now it's hard to. I mean I might root for him when he's fighting in an unknown fighter, but against Canelo, GGG, Jacobs, Charlo and so on. I don't like what he says most of the time but I respect his fighting and it stays at fighting. I don't like him calling Golovkin, Canelo or Jacobs pussies. They all can beat him. To be fair to Fury, at least he did the right things with the belts and vacated them instead of holding them hostage. That would've been awful if he done that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnvXXXC9XJE

I'm rooting for Khurtside by the way. Who are you rooting for?

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But we do have AJ, Walsh, Smiths, Bellew, Crolla.

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Yeah, we should respect everyone who jas ever fought, that goes without saying, but Saunders is a,

I don't think he had a choice, I wouldn't give these bullies respect or credit as people, I hope Khurtside drills Billy, BS, Saunders.

Yeah just proves my point that doesn't it? Man, the US is better than we are for humble athletes.

True.

He could've held on to those belts longer but I'm happy he vacated the time he did. I don't respect the things he says, but respect the move to vacate instead of hold belt hostage.

It's hard to say.

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No what I'm saying is, is that, I mean, we're talking about TF, you think he dles anything like thst for the right reason?, at best he did what he did to fool people, I think Saunders's siuation is very particular, I don't think most fighters have the ability, to hold the belt hostage, as you say.

I heard. I'm disappointed that it's off. I'm a bigger Parker fan than I come off as, and I want to see him fight as often as I can. He's a good guy.

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The Furys are unsurprisingly, to blame for fucking the fight up. That's good, he's one of my favourite fighters and definitely my favourite heavyweight. You have to take your hat of pf yo him fkr the way he handled not getting the shot at Anthony Joshua, it is not Joshua's fault, it is not Eddie Hearn's fault, it is the IBF's fault, if I was him, I would have been raging at the Ignorant Blasted Fools.

I might watch the Charlo fight later, I am watching Shakur Stevensons debut. He is supposed to be really good in the future.

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I'm watching Charlo vs Hatley now.

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Close fight so far at 2.

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Charlo dropped Hatley in 3, I have Charlo ahead by three points after 4 rounds here.

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