Pound for Pound list

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Pound for Pound list

This is a post where everyone can comment their pound for pound list. It can range from Top 10 all the way to top 50. Has to be current fighters.

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My top 15 pound for pound
1. Terence Crawford
2. Vasyl Lomachenko
3.Gennady Golovkin
4.Canelo Alvarez
5. Errol Spence
6.Oleksandr Usyk
7. Mikey Garcia
8. Anthony Joshua
9. Deontay Wilder
10.Murat Gassiev
11. Danny Jacobs
12. Demetrius Andrade
13. Badou Jack
14. Sergey Kovalev
15. Jermall Charlo

Reserve
Keith Thurman

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1. Terence Crawford
33-0, not the best amateur, beat Mikey Garcia and Danny Garcia, so decent, but losing to Ray Robinson, Yordenis Ugas, Jerry Belmontes, Sadam Ali, finished with a record of 58-12, but as a professional, he has been impressing at world level, achieving at world level, for 5 years, he is a 3 weight world champion, is an outstanding technical fighter with a lot of power, one of the best finishers in the sport, he ruined Gamboa's career, put up an absolute masterclass against Postol, made the last fighter to beat Pacquiao, looked very limited, and last year, he became the only champion at 140 when he destroyed fellow two belt champion, Julius Indongo.
2. Vasyl Lomachenko
11-1 isn't a great record, and Lomachencko might not have had a lot of fights or been a professional for any more than 5 years, but Lomachencko is not only the best amateur I heard of (395-1 is quite something, two time Olympic gold medalist, two time gold medalist at world championships), but he has accomplished a phenomenal amount in just 12 fights, learned a lot, won world titles at 3 weights, and might be the most dominant fighter on the planet, he won every round against and stopped 5 well known opponents, the first finsih, one of the best knockouts I've ever seen, the next 4, stopped on stool, boxed into submission, 4 of those 5 opponents, former world champions. Lomachencko recently moved up to 135, and got off the deck to stop veteran, Jorge Linares, with a brutal body shot. Lomachencko has outstanding footwork, great output, phenomenal variety. Lomachencko is an incredible boxer, and some have him ranked number 1.
3. Oleksandr Usyk
Usyk was a phenomenal amateur, Olympic gold medalist, won gold at the world championships, finished with a record of 335-15, beat Badou Jack, Artur Beterbiev. As a professional, Usyk has proven to be an outstanding boxer, comfortably beat Glowacki (who was undefeated and coming off a stoppage win over Marco Huck). After a good year, beating Mchunu and Hunter (Hunter a good, unbeaten fighter), Usyk entered the WBSS, fought Huck (Huck, coming off a UD loss, but having won against two good opponents since the Glowacki loss). Usyk was great against Huck, who came to fight, but Usyk dominated and stopped Huck. Usyk was in a fight against Briedis (who also beat Huck, knocked out Charr, beat Perez), it was close, but Usyk edged him out. Usyk had two belts after beating Briedis, and in the final, unbeaten puncher, Murat Gassiev, had the other two, trained by top coach, Abel Sanchez, Gassiev Lebedev, stopped Dorticos, and it seemed like a 50/50 fight, Gassiev more dominant in the WBSS, I changed my prediction from Gassiev close to Usyk close. Usyk put up an absolute boxing masterclass against Gassiev, absolutely schooled him, easily won the fight, and won a minimum of 11 rounds.
4. Mikey Garcia
Mikey has a great record, 39-0, he is a veteran, didn't have a great amateur career, but is trained by (in my opinion) the best trainer, his brother (former world champion). Garcia is a 4 weight world champion, been a world champion from 126-140, and is now a 2 belt world champion at 135. Mikey was a pro who was dominant, but didn't step up to world level until he was 30-0, he was 25, and unproven when he fought Salido. Garcia became a world champion at 126, dominated, dropped, Saldio, defended against and stopped Juanma Lopez (former world champion), but failed the weight, moved up, fought 3 time world champion, Roman Martinez, he was dropped, but outside the knockdown, he was dominant before stopping Martinez, he then defended with a UD. After Garcia won 4 world title fights, 2 at 126 and 130, he issues, was out of the ring for 30 months, seemed done at one stage. Garcia returned at 140, took on former world champ, Rojas, started in round 3, and stopped him in 5, 6 months later, he took on unbeaten champ at 135, Zlaticanan, and made a huge statement, sparked him in 3, many ranked him very high at this stage, he was clearly back. Later in 2017, Mikey went 140, fought Broner, (Broner, 28, unbeaten below 147, and determined to win), Mikey boxed a masterclass against Broner, he then took on undefeated 140 IBF champ, Lipinets, he dropped, comfortably beat Lipinets, but then vacated, moved back to 135 to defend his WBC 135 belt, took on unbeaten IBF champ, Easter, dropped, beat him wide, with a brilliant, dominant last 6 rounds. Garcia is a power puncher, a counter puncher, a solid, compact boxer, a current two belt champion, and a 4 weight champion.
5. Errol Spence Jr
One of the most dominant fighters out there, Spence was not occupied against half decent fighters like Algieri and Bundu, it was so easy, he scored a brilliant knockout against Bundu, Peterson beat Khan and came very close to beating Danny Garcia, and he was a punching bag for Spence. The only time Errol Spence Jr has struggled at all (since having one bad round many years ago) was against Kell Brook, who beat Shawn Porter. Spence was probably being edged out after 6 rounds against Brook, and after that, he was dominant, stopped Brook late. Spence is in his prime, he might even get better if anything over the next couple of years, he is a very dominant fighter, one of the best punchers in the world, he isn't the fastest, he isn't great on the back foot, but Spence is very strong at 147, has great power, great output, stamina, variety, he is a body puncher, and he has underrated technical ability in my opinion, has solid defence. Spence has only had one meaningful fight, but I think based on that win, based on how easy it has been for him against opponents who more than challenged other world level fighters, and based on his improvement, his talent, desire, dedication, I think he is already a top level fighter, and more people will rank him top 5 in a couple of years, when he is more proven.
6. Saul Alvarez
Alvarez has a great record, 49-1-2, he has a great resume, has wins over many former world champions, didn't have much of an amateur career as a lot of Mexicans don't, learned as a pro, started as a professional at 15, was only 23 when he fought Floyd Mayweather, and he got absolutely schooled that night, he seemed to fall apart mentally, had no success, but as the years have gone by, it has seemed like that loss has helped Alvarez, taught him a lot, and in his last few fights, we've seen a veteran, still a young fighter, with power, technical skill, boxing talent, and dedication to boxing. Alvarez is a counter puncher, has a great boxing brain, great reflexes, great defence, great variety, he can set opponents up, he is very dangerous, he showed good boxing skills against Cotto, Chavez. Alvarez has possibly the best resume in boxing, with wins over Mosely, Trout, Lara, Cotto, Khan, he has been brilliant in recent years, knocking out Khan, dominating a determined, teak tough Liam Smith, doing great, winning every round against Chavez Jr, so you could argue he is the best, I don't think he is the best in the world at all, he is protected by politics, his wins over Trout, Lara, were both very close, disputed, the Lara win, quite controversial, and most importantly, when he stepped right up and fought rival, Gennady Golovkin, last year, a win which would likely have put him in the top 3, given him more grounds to call himself the best boxer in the world, when he fought Golovkin, it was a draw, there was a terrible judge, and most people who saw the fight, thought Alvarez was very lucky to get the draw, I had him losing by 2 points, many had him losing by 4. Now, Alvarez is coming off exactly a year out, fighting Golovkin again, his attitude disgusts and enrages me, and if he lost, that would be a great result, but after he failed a drug test, sabotaged the rematch when it was scheduled to happen 4 months ago, he has kept at it in the gym, the teams sorted the rematch. It is crunch time for Alvarez, if he loses to Golovkin, he will still be a great fighter, still be ranked well, well within the top 20 on my list, but maybe knock him out of the top 10 if he loses, and in terms of being a boxing legend, legacy, although his resume is already brilliant, a loss would prevent him from being a real boxing legend, being another Mayweather, another Leonard, another Jones Jr, but if Alvarez wins, we will have to rank him top 8 and most likely top 5, and you could even rank him top, definitely you could have him top 3, and if he beats Golovkin, as much as we all hate a drugs cheat, as much as we all want to see him banned for life, we have to acknowledge Alvarez as one of the few best boxers of his era.
7. Jermall Charlo
8. Jermell Charlo
9. Gervonta Davis
10. Gennady Golovkin

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1. Vasyl Lomachenko
2. Terrence Crawford
3. Guillermo Rigondeaux
4. Mikey Garcia
5. Andre Ward
6. Gennady Golovkin
7. Kell Brook
8. Leo Santa Cruz
9. Felix Verdejo
10. Roman Gonzalez
11. Carl Frampton
12. Keith Thurman
13. Manny Pacquiao
14. Sergey Kovalev
15. Daniel Jacobs
16. Canelo Alvarez
17. Jermall Charlo
18. Badou Jack
19. Demetrius Andrade
20. Oleksandr Usyk
21. Erislandy Lara
22. Billy Joe Saunders
23. James DeGale
24. Noaya Inoue
25. Timothy Bradley
26. Rances Barthelemy
27. Shawn Porter
28. Gilberto Ramirez
29. Adonis Stevenson
30. Joseph Parker
31. Chris Eubank Jr.
32. Anthony Joshua
33. Sergey Lipinets
34. Tevin Farmer
35. Jermell Charlo
36. Viktor Postol
37. Nicholas Walters
38. Deontay Wilder
39. Errol Spence Jr.
40. Michel Soro
41. Carlos Cuadras
42. Shinsuke Yamanaka
43. Eleider Alvarez
44. Abner Mares
45. Gary Russell Jr.
46. Terry Flanagan
47. Mairis Briedis
48. Oleksandr Gvozdyk
49. Kazuto Ioka
50. Zou Shiming

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1. Terence Crawford
2. Andre Ward
3. Siergiej Kowaliow
4. Wasyl Łomaczenko
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Giennadij Gołowkin
7. Keith Thurman
8. Saul Alvarez
9. Mikey Garcia
10. Ołeksandr Usyk

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Up date
1. Crawford
2. Ward
3. Łomaczenko
4. Thurman
5. Golovkin
6. M. Garcia
7. Alvarez
8. Gonzalez
9. Spence jr.
10. Joshua

Kovalev, Pacquaio, Lara, Rigondeaux, Inoue, Usyk, Stevenson, Jermall Carlo, Santa Cruz, Davis

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As much as a great fighter I think Loma will become, I don't think he should be ranked in anyone's top 5, especially after only 8 fights.

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You could be right, however, after such a fantastic amateur career, and with that record!, many thinkn it necessary to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe in his potential, plus, he had looked increasingly impressive before that KO of the year candidate knock out over Roman Martinez, and what a performance against Nicholas Walters, in my opinion, based on this, this is enough to put him in the top five. I believe potentially, after a couple more fights, and more familiarity and consistency, Mikey Garcia could even have the beating of Lomackenko.

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To be Honest...Loma should be credited for his World Series Boxing record in the Pros. just because it was sanctioned by the AIBA, it is being discarded from Pro Record.

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Here's mine as of July 2017:

1. V. Lomachenko
2. G. Golovkin
3. T. Crawford
4. K. Thurman
5. D. Wilder
6. S. Kovalev
7. A. Ward
8. G. Rigondeaux
9. R. Gonzalez
10. D. Jacobs

I wanted to sneak in M. Garcia...but being honest... he hasn't been as active as we wish he was or with better opposition. Rigo is a similar case as I think he should be ranking higher.

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Jacobs above Canelo?

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Well, Jacobs just managed to go 12 Rounds against one of the most feared fighters in this era, and in the eyes of some he made it a close fight.
I'm yet to see a performance by Canelo that indicates he should be in the P4P list.

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1. Andre Ward
2. Terence Crawford
3. Gennady Golvkin
4. Canelo Alvarez
5. Vasyl Lomachenko
6. Anthony Joshua
7. Errol Spence Jr
8. Keith Thurman
9. Guillermo Rigondeaux
10. Sergey Kovalev
11. Badou Jack
12. Tyson Fury
13. James DeGale
14. Danny Garcia
15. Roman Gonzalez
16. Jorge Linares
17. Leo Santa Cruz
18. Daniel Jacobs
19. Carl Frampton
20. Adonis Stevenson
21. Amir Khan
22. Gervonta Davis
23. Billie Joe Saunders
24. Chris Eubank Jr
25. Mikey Garcia
26. Kell Brook
27. Garry Russell Jr
28. Jamie Mcdonell
29. George Groves
30. Tony Bellew
31. Adrien Broner
32. Gilberto Ramirez
33. Deontay Wilder
34. Lee Selby
35. Srisaket Sor Rungvisai
36. Jeff Horn
37. David Haye
38. Callum Smith
39. Luis Ortiz
40. Lamont Peterson

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1. Ward
2. Crawford
3. Golovkin
4. Canelo
5. Rigondeaux
6. Lomachenko
7. Kovalev
8. Thurman
9. M.Garcia
10. Spence Jr

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Andre Ward retiring shakes up every boxing fans pound for pound lists. So does number two simply move up to number one with Andre walking away for everyone, or does the first position need to be fought for?

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No it doesn't in this case, not for the time being, I mean, someone has to have the top spot, whether that's Crawford, M Garcia, Lomachenko, Canelo, Golovkin, well that can be debated all day long, but I think one of them, or Rigondeaux, Spence, a few others, should definitely be in that number 1 pound for pound position.

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1.Lomachenko
2.Crawford
3.Golovkin
4.Canelo
5.M.Garcia
6.Thurman
7.Spence
8.Rungvisai
9.Kovalev
10.Rigondeaux
(Inoue
Usyk
Lara
Joshua)

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1. Crawford
2. Lomachenko
3. Golovkin
4. Garcia
5. Spence
6. Inoue
7. Kovalev
8. Usyk
9. Rungvisai
10. Joshua

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1. Terence Crawford
2. Gennady Golovkin
3. Vasyl Lomachenko
4. Mikey Garcia
5. Errol Spence Jr

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1. Lomachenko
2. Crawford
3. Golovkin
4. Canelo
5. Mikey Garcia
6. Usyk
7. Thurman
8. Rungvisai
9. Spence Jr
10. Kovalev
Inoue
Joshua
Berchelt
Santa cruz
Nietes

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1. Gennady Golovkin
2. Terrence Crawford
3. Mikey Garcia
4. Vasyl Lomachenko
5. Wisaksil Wangek
6. Naoya Inoue
7. Errol Spence Jr
8. Anthony Joshua
9. Kieth Thurman
10. Saul Alvarez

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Best UK fighters

1. Anthony Joshua
2. Callum Smith
3. Kal Yafai
4. Billy Joe Saunders
5. George Groves
6. Lewis Ritson
7. Tyson Fury
8. Josh Taylor
9. Ryan Burnett
10. Carl Frampton
11. Dillian Whyte
12. Lawrence Okolie
13. Kell Brook
14. Tony Bellew
15. Hughie Fury
16. Callum Johnson
17. Josh Kelly
18. Kid Galahad
19. James DeGale
20. Amir Khan

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Best USA fighters

1. Terence Crawford
2. Mikey Garcia
3. Errol Spence Jr
4. Jermall Charlo
5. Jermell Charlo
6. Gervonta Davis
7. Deontay Wilder
8. Demetrius Andrade
9. Gary Russell Jr
10. Daniel Jacobs
11. David Benavidez
12. Jarrell Miller
13. Regis Prograis
14. Jarrett Hurd
15. Danny Garcia
16. Shawn Porter
17. Jose Benavidez
18. Andrew Tabiti
19. Keith Thurman
20. Tevin Farmer