Gary Russell Jr vs Tugstsogt Nyambayar Scorecard by Gold


scorecard by GOLD
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GARY RUSSELL JR
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115
TUGSTSOGT NYAMBAYAR
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113

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Champion97's picture

I had the same score. Impressed by Nyambayar? Or more unimpressed by Russell?

Gold's picture

More impressed by Nyambayar than unimpressed by Russell but it didn't massively change my opinion on either of them. I'm just hoping to see Russell in versus a top-level guy next, whoever that happens to be.

Champion97's picture

I didn't expect Nyambayar to get to Russell, work the body, land the counter right anywhere near that often. Do you want to read my analysis for the game plans for Wilder vs Fury II? I would be interested to read your response.

Gold's picture

I didn't either but I thought Nyambayar would be able to do more early on given Russell is so inactive.

I did read it, I pretty much agree but you know I think Wilder has improved his mental game from the first Fury fight. It is very unpredictable like you mentioned, I may switch to Fury but I want to wait to get as much information as possible. There seems to be a lot of psychological games from both sides on tactics, weight, etc. I think the Sugar Hill part of it is interesting, I wonder what if any changes/adaptations he'll bring to the table.

Champion97's picture

I didn't because Nyambayar was coming off a full year out, and Russell was coming off his shortest gap between fights since 2014.

I might have asked you this before, but what gives him a better mentality this time? Wise, I definitely think the weigh in will tell us a lot, I think for Fury, it's easy to be fooled by how much better Wallin did than Schwarz, and he should be 248-253. I think Wilder's team have exaggerated any ailments, but I think he was too light, I think he should be 220-225. The way Fury talks makes me think changing trainers was about getting the KO, but if that is the case, I think that's bad for Fury, I don't see how you can give a fully grown fighter the ability to physically generate more power, and I think Fury should have sacked Davidson earlier.

Gold's picture

True, and I didn't factor that in. The fight kind of went under the radar for me.

I really think Fury got under his skin the first time and he loaded up too much. Also, I have said it before but even though his boxing didn't look better versus Ortiz in the rematch he was very patient which is what I mean by his mentality being better. I don't think he is actually going for the KO. There can be ways to do it but they have to have natural punching ability to start with which Fury doesn't have. This isn't a boxing example but in MMA there is a now retired fighter named Dan Henderson who early in his career (when he was in his late 20's) was called "Decision Dan" because he had a wrestling heavy style that went the distance a lot and wasn't a relevant power puncher. However, he was very strong and had a lot of natural power he didn't know how to exploit. When he developed his power punching to the point where he had ATG level power as "H-Bomb Hendo" he had some of the best MMA knockouts of all-time, most notably versus Bisping in their first fight. So it is possible. I think Davidson did a good job for what he was there for originally which was getting Fury into shape, but he could only take Fury so far.

Champion97's picture

I think Russell has gone under the radar. I wonder if he can get Santa Cruz at 130, it doesn't seem likely, and if not, who does he fight? Top Rank has two champions, most of the top fighters at 130.

If that's true, that's poor from Wilder, you can't let a big mouth like Fury affect your performance. I believe that in general, mind games are a bad sign for the fighter who tries to use them, and they don't often work not because boxing isn't a mental thing but for the opposite reason, it is not the kind of thing that is easy to put a number on, but some say it is 90% mental, so with how a fighter is tested mentally in the ring, by the fight itself, it's always surprised me how what a fighter has said before the fight, but without doubt, it does happen, it's a question of how often it happens, Groves got under Froch's skin the first time, I think Chisora got under Whyte's skin the first time, it would have been interesting to see if any of the yapping from Miller had got under Joshua's skin.

I don't disagree at all that a fighter can get KOs by adjusting their technique, but I don't believe you can give a full grown fighter the ability to physically generate more pure power, punchers have been asked, and the only answer I've ever heard is "it's a gift, I'm blessed". That makes sense, and that doesn't surprise me, because as you said, he didn't know how to exploit his power, so the explanation for him hitting harder is probably him improving his technque and learning to explot power he always had. I agree on Davidson, he didn't have the experience to bring the best out of Fury.

Gold's picture

He can't, otherwise Russell vs. Santa Cruz would have already happened. Apparently, he's angling for any unification fight at Featherweight and has contacted Eddie about Warrington, otherwise, he's moving up and has mentioned Haney. I think at PBC he can eventually get a fight with Davis but it is too much of an ask for him to move up to 135 in my opinion. He's not a big 126.

Fury is a great talker, he got in Wlad's head as well who had a massive amount of experience. Those who are great at mind games like Ali and to an extent Fury can make it work but it's very rare.

Yeah, I agree. Hearns is a boxing example of someone who had natural power but had to be taught how to use it transitioning from amateur to pro.

Champion97's picture

Seems unlikely, but we don't know why Santa Cruz didn't want the fight at 126 if we believe what Russell says about why the fight hasn't happened. I knew Warrington had resigned with Hearn, but I didn't know Russell has contacted Hearn. I agree, that would be a bad idea, and at 130, there are limited options as a PBC fighter. Warrington vs Russell or Stevenson would be great to see this year.

I don't believe the pre fight talk made a difference in the fight, I think Klitschko's own intelligence was a hindrance, and he didn't throw punches because he didn't believe they would land, because of Fury's reflexes, and the way he used his reach. Thurman certainly angered Pacquiao personally which is something we haven't seen before, but that didn't help him in the fight, but I think it made a difference because there were more taunts and showboating from Pacquiao than normal. Another example is Bellew getting under Haye's skin, because I think he did the first time.