Dillian Whyte vs Joseph Parker Scorecard by SalTnutZ1


scorecard by SALTNUTZ1
Round
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Total
DILLIAN WHYTE
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
10
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10
9
8
113
JOSEPH PARKER
10
8
10
10
9
9
10
9
8
9
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10
112

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SalTnutZ1's picture

Hard to say. I’m skeptical on Eddie on a lot of things like this, because he’s been mealy mouthed about this subject so much, making excuses for his guys, while trashing others. Until the sanctioning bodies and anti-doping agencies make a statement to clear him, I will always wonder if he’s clean. He had a previously failed test, so no reason to just take their word that this was an unfair ban or tainted test. If I was Whyte, and knew I was clean, I’d be beating the drum in public everyday to prove so and demand transparency on all ends of this. I know you don’t watch UFC, but there was a high profile fight a few weeks ago between guys named Nate Diaz and Jorge Masvidal. Nate was informed of a potential positive test a week or so before the fight, and the UFC tried to have him stay quiet about it. Well, he raised hell in public, exposing the alleged failure immediately, and banged the drum of his innocence until they admitted a failure in their testing and he was cleared. I know everyone and every situation is different, but it seems like I believe someone more when they take that approach, rather than being evasive and hiding. What do you make of it?

Champion97's picture

I don't like that from Eddie, Bellew either, there is a lot of bias in the UK, and not just amongst fans. Whyte's brother seemed confident, said everything would come back clear, but they found out about the failed drug test before the fight, Hearn and Whyte both seemed annoyed about something. I think Whyte has taken something that he doesn't know had an illegal substance in it, maybe something that was out lawed, that's what happened to Povetkin before the Wilder fight, I think that makes more sense than just taking an obviously illegal substance, when you have so much to lose. I think it will be forgotten, just like Saunders, Canelo.

Fighters fail tests, and fighters die, but I haven't heard of a fighter dying before his opponent fails a test. If those 2 things coincide, can you imagine the shit the fighter who failed a test would be in?, maybe that's what it will take to wake fighters up and make them stop using, fighters dying in any case should be all it takes to make them stop, but I suppose the more fighters take drugs, the harder it is for the clean fighters to stay clean.

SalTnutZ1's picture

I get that. And they let Povetkin fight Duhaupas after failing a test, so there are a lot of bad actors and incidents involving cheating in the sport. I never bought any of their excuses to be honest, I think Canelo was cycling off, and got caught, thinking they weren’t going to test him while he was in Mexico. I didn’t believe BJS either. They will all be tainted, no pun intended, to me after that. Can still rate them as they are as fighters, but never will buy what they’re selling on the excuse for failed tests. They are highly paid athletes with nutritionists and trainers around them, and the due diligence is on them to make sure what they ingest is clean. With Povetkin, if I remember right, they tried to say that he did knowingly use, but it was prior to the substance being banned, and that his failure was a carryover result from him using before the ban was implemented.

That was the reasoning for a lot of guys in Major League Baseball for using. They knew so many guys were, and getting big paydays for it, so they felt compelled to use as well. Creates a vicious cycle, and as you said, in this sport, can be life altering.

Champion97's picture

I understand why they are tainted to a lot of people, but I just try to disregard it, not let it ruin boxing for me, because we don't know how many fighters are using PEDs, and I don't think dirty fighters have the intention of killing anyone or hurting someone long term, still, I suppose a drunk driver doesn't kill anyone on purpose. Yeah, I don't buy any excuses, Canelo and his team were lying if they didn't have a very poor nutritionist. Yeah it was, I remember, and for a few days, it looked like the fight was still on. As you ventured yesterday, Wilder's resume would be better if opponents hadn't failed tests.

Shawn Porter reckons Ortiz will pull out an upset win this weekend, I think he's being written off, Ortiz, but I think Wilder is 100% focused on Ortiz, after the first fight, I don't see how he couldn't be, and I think Wilder will make a statement, I expect a different game plan from Ortiz, more body work, I think the tempo will be higher, but the pace will take a lot more out of Ortiz, Wilder will do more damage, and he stops him in 7.

SalTnutZ1's picture

I think Wilder wins, too. I imagine Ortiz is still dangerous and will be in better shape, but his last few outing have been lackluster affairs. Could have been him sandbagging to make himself look a bit less of a boogeyman and get another big fight, or could have been the age catching up. I can see it being competitive, but just like most expect Ortiz to be more focused, with a better game plan, I believe we will see the same from Deontay. In both the Ortiz and Fury fights, he seemed to be more tentative at times early, looking to gauge the distance and set up his shots, which let the other man control the action more than he’d like. I’d have to think he will also come out more aggressive, throwing some early body shots like he did with Breazeale, and look to zap the energy of Ortiz. I think it ends before the first fight. Leaning to it being less competitive than the first though, but I could be totally off base with that prediction. We’ll see Saturday!

Champion97's picture

What do you make of Jason Knight stopping Lobov in the rematch? I didn't expect that.

SalTnutZ1's picture

There first fight was a brawl, but Knight fought a more patient, technical fight second time around. Didn’t let Lobov cut him off and get him in the clinch to hit as much, kept him at the end of the jab more, and made Lobov fight at distance, which he’s not good at. Didn’t think he would end up stopping him though, but the damage to Lobovs Eye was too much.

Champion97's picture

I saw the finish, and it looked like Lobov couldn't see. How did you score Malignaggi vs Lobov?, because I thought Paulie might have edged him 3-2, I didn't think it was a robbery, he did well under the circumstances, his right hand was fucked up, and he had to overuse his left hand, he had hand issues in boxing, with wraps, quality gloves, and in BKF, no knuckle protection.

Have you ever heard of Richard Dwyer?, if not, he is, in my opinion, by far the best boxing YouTuber who isn't in the boxing industry, there are many idiots, some who know their stuff, but they let their biases take over, but Dwyer is the only non-biased boxing YouTuber I know of. Dwyer has some interesting opinions, he always backs them up, I strongly disagree with some of his opinions, but his break downs are very interesting.

SalTnutZ1's picture

I thought Paulie edged it as well, but figured if it was close, he wouldn't get the nod as a one time competitor in the sport, compared to the opponent who was planning on sticking with the BK scene.

I have, he's a funny guy as well. I follow a lot of bettors, and he is one of them. Have you ever heard of the No Context Hearn Twitter? Well, they also have a very funny one called No Context Dwyer. I enjoy his stuff a lot, even if, as you said, I don't always agree.

Champion97's picture

I don't do Twitter at all, but that sounds like a good laugh for Twitter followers.

I don't think Wilder's 5-10 second break in the first Ortiz fight was important, they should have checked for a concussion in between rounds, but it gave Ortiz extra time to rest, and more importantly, although Wilder's survival skills were terrible in round 7, Ortiz couldn't stop him, he didn't have enough in the tank, and he couldn't put him down. I don't think Wilder would have got the 5-10 second break if the fight had been in Vegas, the New York commision seem to have more safety regulations, but I don't think it would have made a big difference if any difference, and I might be wrong about the state commisions being relevant. What do you think?

SalTnutZ1's picture

New York is very tight on safety regulations. They didn't even let MMA matches in the state for a long time. I like the approach though, as it could save many a fighter should they really be out of it, and hopefully prevent serious injury or death. They likely would have stopped the Fury-Wallin fight over that cut as well, as they are very strict on that side as well. Each state is different in their approach. Example, many state don't allow Bareknuckle, while others do. I wish we had a national commission that oversaw the rules, rather than state by state commissions, just to make the rules and expectations consistent across the country.

Champion97's picture

Interesting you mention Fury's cut, because as bas as he was cut, Jack was cut worse against Browne, and thst fight wasn't stopped, thst was in Vegas, Russell vs Martinez was in New York, was stopped on a cut, the cut was not that bad. California seems to be a very safe state as well, with their rules.

I was thinking of starting a forum page for what we think the game plans for upcoming fights should be, good idea?

SalTnutZ1's picture

Absolutely buddy! Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!

Champion97's picture

I've started the forum page, might add a bit to it, but I've written a break down for Ruiz vs Joshua II, and am writing one for Wilder vs Ortiz II now