Gennady Golovkin vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko Scorecard by Champion97


scorecard by CHAMPION97
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GENNADY GOLOVKIN
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SERGIY DEREVYANCHENKO
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114

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What did you think of the fight? I still have yet to watch.

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Great fight, not as good as Spence vs Porter, but still great. Derevyanchenko did great, hurt Golovkin bad to the body a few times, had him back peddling. I think a lot of people wrote Derevyanchenko off, I thought it would be a close fight, Golovkin is 37, and we saw a few signs of age decline, there are rumours he had a virus, could be an explanation as to why he was so vulnerable to the body, but it might be a minor illness which his team are exaggerating, and for sure, Golovkin is past his best. I don't think Banks is bringing the best out of Golovkin as McGirt is bringing the best out of Kovalev, I don't think he has the mentality of a trainer, but more a training buddy. I hope Derevyanchenko gets another shot at a world title next year, because he gave Golovkin all he could handle, Golovkin's age was a factor, but so was Derevyanchenko being underrated.

I will watch this one soon. I don't know about the sickness and how serious it was, maybe that hindered him id have to see. Drevychenko is underrated definitely in the top 4 at 160. He gave Jacobs and GGG all he could handle. I think that it's age that's whats slowing GGG down. He looked his age against Rolls. I just feel he's declining.

What do you think of Kovalevs chances against Canelo?

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I don't think the fight will give you a better idea of whether he was sick or not, we can't know whether that's the truth, a lie, or an exaggeration, it's just worth noting, and if Golovkin seems better in his next fight, doesn't look as old, then maybe put the Derevyanchenko fight down to illness, but otherwise, just dismiss it as an excuse. One thing I will say, is that I think Golovkin is relatively weak to the body, Canelo could have gone to the body more, I thought Jacobs briefly hurt him to the body when they fought, and as he gets older, that's only going to be more of a weakness.

He is declining, it's biology, and I think he made a mistake hiring Banks, I think unlike McGirt, Banks can't train an old fighter without over training him, not saying he was over trained for Derevyanchenko, but I don't think Banks is that good, didn't have a lot of advice for Golovkin in the Derevyanchenko fight, and I think McGirt, Robles, Garcia, would have all been better trainers for Golovkin than Banks.

If he has just about had enough time between fights, then he has a good chance, because he has a big size advantage, I believe he hits harder at 175 than Golovkin does at 160, so for Canelo, taking Kovalev's power is a much bigger ask than taking Golovkin's, and it's a bigger ask even if I'm wrong about Kovalev hitting harder than Golovkin, because they are both punchers, there can't be much in it,

I think if Kovalev is able to nick some early rounds, without working too hard, dictate with the jab, be patient, set up the counter right, and when it lands, get Canelo's respect at the very least, and he can get Canelo to back off, not let Canelo force him to work or attack the body, then Kovalev has a good chance, but I don't think he can do that because Canelo is too adaptable to get controlled by the jab, I think he will be patient, will be wary of Kovalev's right hand, will start very slowly, very cautiously, will sneak in a couple of body shots even in round 1, I think he will do a good job of slipping Kovalev's jab, he will out time Kovalev more than vice verse, Kovalev will be the one who tires after 6 rounds, his jab will slow down and lose snap, Canelo will get to the body a lot easier, and I think he stops Kovalev late, not by hitting hard, but by landing a lot of clean punches to head and body, for 2 or 3 one sided rounds, and breaking Kovalev down.

You give Kovalev much of a shot?

I just finished the fight. Had Golovkin winning by one point. He did look his age in this fight. It could've easily went Drevychenkos way. I guess we'll have to see if Golovkin was really sick because if he looks good against a solid opponent that could be the case.

I think he did too. It's weird because Banks worked well with Klitschko in his older age and he took worse beatings then Golovkin before they met up.

I'll wrap up Kovalev and Canelo all in one paragraph. I really like Kovalevs chances in this fight. He's the hardest hitter in the division and he has a size advantage against Canelo. In some Canelo fights, he seems to gas out later, I wonder how the extra weight will effect him in the later rounds. Kovalev definitely hits harder then GGG, and they have around the same jab. Very powerful. Kovalev has also looked very well with Mcgirt. I also worry about Kovalevs gas tank in this fight because he hasn't aged the best and Canelo is a very good body puncher. I think Kovalev gives Canelo a very tough fight. I can see him potentially knocking Canelo down. This is a very good fight.

What other fights are coming up this month worth watching?

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I'll respond later, but Gvozdyk vs Beterbiev, Prograis vs Taylor are not ones to miss, great fights, and Stevenson vs Gonzalez, Chisora vs Price, also good fights.

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I'm not sure I agree he worked great with Klitschko, I don't think Vitali would have talked over Steward, but he gave Wladimir his share of advice against Fury and Joshua, I think he he's a yes man, more of a training buddy than a trainer, and he is no replacement for Steward.would have talked over Steward, but he gave Wladimir his share of advice against Fury and Joshua, I think he he's a yes man, more of a training buddy than a trainer, and he is no replacement for Steward.

Certainly one of them, I agree he hits the hardest. Both of them have been known to gas, but Canelo finds a second wind, Kovalev doesn't (the Yarde might defy that, but I think that was more about how empty Yarde's tank was, he emptied his tank as he was told to by his trainer), part of it is about age, but Kovalev does not get stronger as the fight goes on, Canelo's stamina seemed to have improved a lot in the GGG rematch and Jacobs fight.

It depends on how heavy Canelo is, be might go for strength and make the difference in strength smaller, sacrifice stamina and output, it he might put in very little weight, weigh in at 173 or less, and not fight much heavier than in previous fights, would be wiser in my opinion, he wouldn't hit harder if he was heavier, and being lighter will be better for his stamina, but there will be a big difference in strength.

Good point, but the key is how easily Canelo can get to the body, because sure he hit the body at will against Fielding, not just because of the height but also because Fielding couldn't stop him from doing that, couldn't deter him, no control over the distance, didn't have the IQ to counter Canelo. I'm interested to see how long it takes Canelo to start attacking the body, he'll want to do body work, early, but as you said, that jab, he might be able to keep Canelo in position with the jab, and he can set up the right hand counter, I think Canelo will respect Kovalev's power, so he won't want to get caught on the way in, therefore he might want to hold off on the body shots, and that will give Kovalev more control over the pace.

I agree he will give him a very tough fight, and yes I think he will knock him down, Canelo has a granite chin, but I still think a 175lb Kovalev is more than capable of hurting him. Canelo's ability to recover from being hurt hasn't been tested because we've never seen him hurt, but I think he will be hurt in this fight, and if Kovalev was younger, this could have even be too much for him.

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I was meaning for the later part of his career when Banks training him, but I could see what you're saying.

That's true when Kovalev is gassed he's done. Canelo can recover way better, especially since he is the younger fighter. I think it depends on how Canelo can carry the weight I feel.

Kovalev is a different animal then Fielding. He has the better ring iq, and he has the power to stop him in his tracks from throwing anything back. It's smart for Canelo to go to the body early then have it pay off later and possibly stop him.

Do you think he'll give him his toughest fight? He does have a granite chin but since he's going up a big bit in weight that could change. Everything is going to change for Canelo. His chin and recovery will be tested. Also do you think if Kovalev pulls this off he can be a top 10 pound for pound fighter?

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Sorry for the late response.

I know that's what you meant, but I don't think he did a great job with Klitschko, not particularly bad, he's no Tunde, but I think he was the same with Klitschko as with Golovkin.

Yes, because Kovalev gassing will only be something Alvarez can capitalise on if Alvarez isn't gassed himself, because if they are both gassed, I think Kovalev will keep pushing the jab, and Alvarez won't be able to get past it if he's gassed, although even then he's dangerous to the body, Stevenson's tank was 99% empty against Jack, and he still hurt him to the body with a clever shot.

Definitely, but can he get to the body early?, can he get past the jab? Will he try to go to the body early even though he'll know Kovalev will be trying to walk him onto a right hand? I think he will go to the body, but not much in the early rounds, it's not easy to land body shots early against Kovalev, I think Alvarez can land the overhand right whenever Kovalev steps back, but because of the size, I don't think Alvarez can hurt Kovalev with a single power shot to the head.

Tough question to answer, I think he'll do more damage and hit him harder than before, and I think he will frustrate Alvarez with the jab, disallow him from attacking the body as much as he will plan to, but I don't think Kovalev can give Alvarez the most problems, technically. No doubt, size advantage or not, Alvarez has the best resume in boxing apart from possibly Pacquiao, if you beat him, you're top 10, easily.

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I prefer this one to spence vs porter

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Agree to disagree on that, but both were great fights.