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Really? I couldn't find those online, would you mind posting them?

Yep, and Canelo would drop the WBC if negotiations weren't favorable for them. He is larger than belts at this point. Golovkin and Canelo will make the most money facing each other but I wouldn't be surprised if there were sticking points in the negotiations. Will Golovkin fight in Las Vegas again? How much of a reduction in PPV split will he take? I agree with your assessment of Charlo and Trout, however, I think about the Jacobs fight and how Golovkin had issues with the size of Jacobs trying to box him. Jacobs is a more dynamic boxer for my money but Jermall has a better jab and straight right in my opinion. I can definitely see why you'd favor Golovkin to win on points though. If you don't believe Jermall Charlo is ready for Golovkin, how far would you go up in the rankings if you were trying to match him competitively?

I'm surprised Thurman's comeback fight hasn't been announced yet, I've seen quite a few things about Thurman being back in camp. It would make sense if they put him on the Wilder vs. Fury undercard like what has been rumored. I'm sure they wouldn't throw him back in versus Porter immediately unless he just wants to cash out.

I can see why you'd say Santa Cruz will win easily, he's definitely improved over his career which showed in the Frampton rematch, he has a lot more layers than he used to have. He is a borderline top 10 pound for pound boxer for me.

I think Broner would be more willing to take the fight than Linares, it just seems like it has more upside for him while if Linares waits he will probably get a shot at Ramirez anyways.

Would Mikey be willing to drop the title to do it though? It is possible they've moved on from Mikey vs. Spence and Mikey will try to make fight happen at Lightweight/Super Lightweight. There is a rumor, which that can't be stated enough, it's a total rumor, that Pacquiao has signed to PBC to fight Broner and then if he wins that to fight Mikey.

Everywhere I've seen says it is for the full title, champion in recess is just used to create a mandatory out of a champion that has been stripped for one reason or another. Thurman was made the champion in recess as well if I remember correctly.

I think beating Williams and Charlo is more viable for Lara than beating Hurd in a rematch honestly. From watching Jermell Charlo vs. Trout I think that is a winnable fight for Lara as long as he hasn't aged overnight, Jermell can be boxed. Yeah, it would be even more lucrative, and PBC will want to try to unify those three titles eventually.

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At the office currently, so will try to find original posts, but I saw a few mentions on Boxing Scene, and those other fight notices were tweeted out by Michael Benson on Twitter, if you want to look him up and see the details he posted. He posts a lot, so may have to go back a bit, but it was all posted over the last few days.

In terms of Charlo, and who I'd like to see him fight, in order to better gauge where he's at, and to give himself some further seasoning, I think Murray is similar enough to Trout, but with more left in the tank, albeit slightly. And doing so would knock one more "titlist" out of the picture in the WBC. Otherwise, assuming Danny wins, that is the very fight I'd like to see him in first, since he was the one person(outside of Canelo) that gave GGG a tough fight. If he can get past Jacobs, or Derevyanchenko should he win, then I'd say both in terms of ability, resume, and seasoning, he'd be ready.

I hear Broner-Linares is an eliminator to fight Ramirez, so that may get both men to take the fight, given the stakes.

I guess that's right, and I was clunky in my wording. I guess I should have said he'd have an immediate claim as the number 1 contender, and would be first in line to attempt to recapture his title.

Agree on Lara, too. Those fights, to me, are more winnable than Hurd, or Munguia in terms of the other champions, given the stylistic matchups. That division should be very fun to watch over the next year or two.

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Per same source, WBA also allowing Brain Castano to defend his regular WBA title against Lara, too. So seems like that may be an even easier route to a "strap" before his Hurd rematch. Hoping this one doesn't happen, because I had heard speculation that Munguia may try to target Castano and that belt next, too, to position himself closer to a unification with Hurd.

More announced matchups/fight orders per Michael Benson:

Joe Joyce targeting Gerald Washington for Wilder-Fury undercard.
Serio Martinez has a deal sent to JCC Jr, just waiting on him to sign the deal
Horn v Mundine at 156.5 catch weight
Andrew Selby v Julio Cesar Martinez Aguilar as a final eliminator for their flyweight champion, Cristofer Rosales.
Francisco Vargas v Eduardo Hernandez as a final eliminator for their super-featherweight champion, Miguel Berchelt.
Mohamed Mimoune v Viktor Postol as an eliminator.

There were a few more, but these are the most pertinent.

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I kind of doubt Lara would take that fight, Castano is not a name at all, he'd be better off going the WBC route if that's what the WBA is offering him. Is it even allowed by other sanctioning bodies to "unify" a regular "title"? I don't believe it has ever happened before. I know the WBC uses the Diamond "title" to try to set up unifications, but they don't market that as a legitimate world championship title like the WBA does with the WBA Regular.

Joyce vs. Washington wouldn't be bad, obviously not as good as Joyce vs. Ortiz though. It'll be interesting to see if Washington can box him early on.

I absolutely do not want to see Sergio Martinez ever again, and I say that because I appreciate how good he was at his peak. This fight is a joke, no one can reasonably justify this fight as anything other than a pure money grab.

Horn vs. Mundine will actually be fun to see for what it is, Mundine is an old man but he's way bigger than Horn.

I've never seen the guy Selby is up against, but Selby beat Rosales easily not that long ago. I think it is still a legitimate question to ask how good Rosales is, was he just fortunate to fight a weight drained Higa?

I'd love to see a Vargas vs. Berchelt rematch, their first fight was a war.

I've never seen Minoune before, it should be interesting to see how much Postol has left in the tank.

There were some other interesting ones in my opinion, former WBO Bantamweight champion Tomoki Kameda is fighting in an eliminator for Rey Vargas's Super Bantamweight title against Abigail Medina. Former IBF Minimumweight champion Hirito Kyoguchi is fighting in an eliminator for Ken Shiro's Light Flyweight title against Jonathan Taconing. Plus there is the Oubaali vs. Warren issue I discussed in the other post.

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Not sure how the WBA Regular would work in terms of a unification, I was just basing it off, as you said, how the WBC has used the Diamond at times. But, the guys who hold the Regular title, I'd assume, would get a shot at the World holder eventually. But, with either Lara, or Munguia, if they took that title, it would better position them toward a goal they both have, a fight with Hurd. Munguia already having a legit belt of his own, taking that "title" in a fight that should be a fairly easy win, should help move him closer to the fight he says he wants at 154. And with Lara, if he wants the easiest fight to wait for Hurd, that Castano fight would be it, and would also add a "title" to his name, too.

Yeah, I wish Joyce-Ortiz was happening, but at least he will be facing a live opponent, which I haven't seen him in against yet.

I don't want to see it either, but I keep hearing the talks of it. A complete money grab.

Berchelt, imo, is the best at 130, as I truly think he'd beat Tank, so I think that fight with Vargas, should he win, would be awesome. Their last fight was great, and both always come to fight.

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https://www.ringtv.com/544960-ggg-jermall-charlo-among-fights-ordered-at... They outlined all of them here, I somehow missed it when I looked earlier. The Bantamweight situation seems weird, not really sure why they are implying the Warren vs. Oubaali fight wouldn't be able to be made. Seems strange to me.

Jacobs vs. Derevyanchenko winner vs. Charlo would be great, I'd love to see that. Murray I'm not so interested in, I personally think Charlo is above the level that Murray could gatekeep.

Theoretically yes, but given Top Rank and Golden Boy's relationship, I think Linares could be lined up as an opponent without taking a risky fight like that. I wouldn't be mad at Broner vs. Linares though.

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Only reason I mentioned Murray, was as a tune-up fight, to eliminate the Silver titlist, this taking another hurdle for a title shot out of the picture, while also getting another fight with a guy who has been world level for awhile, something he doesn't have a lot of on his resume. Not saying I think Murray would have a shot, but he's a tough out generally. But yeah, Charlo-Jacobs is what I'd like to see, as I think the BJS-Andrade winner will avoid a unification at all costs, at least for a year or two, and those are the only two viable opponents. Murata-Charlo would be good, too, but I'd rather Murata-GGG, because that would be both entertaining, both decorated amateurs and great pros, and Japan draws like crazy in these big match ups.

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Predictions for November

November

3/Scotland
Josh Taylor vs Ryan Martin
-prediction: Josh Taylor wins by KO Late
Ryan Burnett vs Nonito Donaire
-Prediction: Burnett wins by UD

3/USA
Miguel Berchelt vs Miguel Roman
-Prediction: Berchelt wins by KO Mid

10/Manchester
Oleksandr Usyk vs Tony Bellew
-Prediction: Usyk wins by UD

10/Illinois
Mairis Briedis vs Noel Mikaelian
-Prediction: Briedis wins by UD
Krzysztof Glowacki vs Maksim Vlasov
-prediction: Vlasov wins by SD

16/Oklahoma
Maurice Hooker vs Alex Saucedo
-Prediction: Hooker wins by UD

24/Monaco
Kal Yafai vs Israel Gonzalez
-prediction: Yafai wins by KO Late
Denis Lebedev vs Mike Wilson
-prediction: Lebedev wins by KO Late

24/New Jersey
Dmitry Bivol vs Jean Pascal
-prediction: Bivol wins by KO Late

30/Australia
Jeff Horn vs Anthony Mundine
-prediction: Horn wins by UD

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17/Kansas
Jarrell Miller vs Bogdan Dinu
-prediction: Miller wins by KO Late
Brandon Rios vs Ramon Alvarez
-prediction: Rios wins by KO Mid
Gabriel Rosado vs Luis Arias
-prediction: Arias wins by UD
Claressa Shields vs Hannah Rankin
-prediction: Shields wins by UD

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Josh Taylor beats Ryan Martin (UD)
Ryan Burnett beats Nonito Donaire (UD)

3/USA
Miguel Berchelt beats Miguel Roman (late)

10/Manchester
Oleksandr Usyk beats Tony Bellew (UD)

10/Illinois
Mairis Briedis beats Noel Mikaelian (mid)
Krzysztof Glowacki beats Maksim Vlasov (SD)

16/Oklahoma
Alex Saucedo beats Maurice Hooker (UD)

17/Kansas
Jarrell Miller beats Bogdan Dinu (UD)
Brandon Rios beats Ramon Alvarez (late)
Luis Arias beats Gabriel Rosado (UD)
Claressa Shields beats Hannah Rankin (UD)

24/Monaco
Kal Yafai beats Israel Gonzalez (late)
Denis Lebedev beats Mike Wilson (mid)

24/New Jersey
Dmitry Bivol beats Jean Pascal (mid)

30/Australia
Jeff Horn beats Anthony Mundine (UD)

December

1/Canada
Oleksandr Gvozdyk beats Adonis Stevenson (late)

1/California
Deontay Wilder beats Tyson Fury (mid)

8/London
Chris Eubank Jr beats James DeGale (UD)

8/New York
Vasyl Lomachenko beats Jose Pedraza (UD)
Emanuel Navarrete beats Isaac Dogboe (early)

15/New York
Saul Alvarez beats Rocky Fielding (late)

22/Manchester
Carl Frampton beats Josh Warrington (UD)

22/New York
Jermell Charlo beats Tony Harrison (late)
Jermall Charlo beats Willie Monroe Jr (UD)

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Will anymore fights be added to December's because I already posted my picks and need to know whether I need to check back for added fights?

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I want to change 2 picks for tonight's fights

Hughie Fury wins By SD
Prograis wins by KO Late

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Josh Taylor beats Ryan Martin by UD
Ryan Burnett beats Nonito Donaire by KO 5-8

Miguel Berchelt beats Miguel Roman by KO 9-12

Oleksandr Usyk beats Tony Bellew by UD

Mairis Briedis beats Noel Mikaelian by UD
Krzysztof Glowacki beats Maksim Vlasov by UD

Alex Saucedo beats Maurice Hooker by UD

Jarrell Miller beats Bogdan Dinu by KO 1-4
Brandon Rios beats Ramon Alvarez by UD
Luis Arias beats Gabriel Rosado by UD
Claressa Shields beats Hannah Rankin by UD

Kal Yafai beats Israel Gonzalez by UD
Denis Lebedev beats Mike Wilson by KO 5-8

Dmitry Bivol beats Jean Pascal by KO 5-8

Jeff Horn beats Anthony Mundine by UD

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1/Canada
Oleksandr Gvozdyk beats Adonis Stevenson Late

1/California
Tyson Fury beats Deontay Wilder UD
Jarrett Hurd beats Jason Welborn Late
Luis Ortiz beats Travis Kauffman Mid

8/Sheffield
Kell Brook vs Michael Zerafa - didn't get up in time

8/New York
Vasyl Lomachenko beats Jose Pedraza Mid
Isaac Dogboe beats Emanuel Navarrete UD

14/Texas
Gilberto Ramirez vs Jesse Hart II

15/New York
Rocky Fielding vs Saul Alvarez
David Lemieux vs Tureano Johnson
Tevin Farmer vs Francisco Fonseca

22/Manchester
Josh Warrington vs Carl Frampton

22/London
Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II
Cristofer Rosales vs Charlie Edwards

22/New York
Jermell Charlo vs Tony Harrison
Jermall Charlo vs Willie Monroe Jr

31/China
Donnie Nietes vs Kazuto Ioka

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Oleksandr Usyk beats Tony Bellew Late

Mairis Briedis beats Noel Mikaelian UD
Krzysztof Glowacki beats Maksim Vlasov by UD

Alex Saucedo Maurice Hooker TBD

Jarrell Miller beats Bogdan Dinu Mid
Brandon Rios Ramon Alvarez TBD
Luis Arias Gabriel Rosado TBD
Claressa Shields beats Hannah Rankin by UD

Kal Yafai beats Israel Gonzalez Late
Denis Lebedev beats Mike Wilson Mid

Dmitry Bivol beats Jean Pascal Mid

Jeff Horn beats Anthony Mundine UD

I'll update for the ones I'm not decided on yet.

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Added in the december 1st predictions and the december fight lineup.

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Didn't get up in time for Brook's fight, but I put in predictions for the other fights.

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Jarrett Hurd beats Jason Welborn (Mid)
David Lemieux beats Tureano Johnson (early)
Dillian Whyte beats Dereck Chisora II (UD)

January

19/New York
Manny Pacquiao beats Adrien Broner (UD)

February

2/Texas
Eleider Alvarez beats Sergey Kovalev II (UD)

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Usyk UD
Briedis UD
Glowacki UD
Hook Saucedo (Draw)
Miller (Mid KO/TKO)
Rios UD
Arias UD
Shields UD
Yafai UD
Lebedev (KO/TKO mid)
Bivol (Mid KO/TKO)
(I'll do the rest tomorrow I'm tired :p)

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Saucedo TKO (9-12)
Miller TKO 5-8
Rios TKO 5-8
Arias UD
Shields TKO 7-10

Yafai UD
Lebedev UD

Bivol TKO 5-8

Horn UD

Stevenson TKO 5-8

Wilder KO 5-8
Hurd KO 1-4

Brook TKO 5-8

Gonzalez UD

Lomachenko UD
Dogboe TKO 9-12

Saul Alvarez TKO 5-8
Lemieux UD

Frampton SD

Whyte UD

Jermell Charlo KO 5-8
Jermall Charlo UD

Broner MD

Eleider KO 5-8

Tabiti UD

Inoue TKO 9-12
Prograis UD
Taylor TKO 9-12
Donaire UD

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Let me finish my predictions up:
Horn UD
Gvozdyk TKO/KO Mid
Wilder TKO/KO Mid
Hurd TKO/KO Early
Ortiz KO/TKO Mid
Brook KO/TKO Early
Kelly KO/TKO Early
Gonzalez UD
Lomachenko TKO/KO/RTD Mid/Late... I say TKO 7 or 8
Dogboe KO/TKO Early
Canelo KO/TKO Mid
Lemieux KO/TKO Mid
Farmer UD
Warrington UD
Whyte UD
Jermell KO/TKO Early
Jermall UD
Pacquiao TKO Late
Alvarez UD

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My predictions for December

1/Canada
Adonis Stevenson vs Oleksandr Gvozdyk
= Gvozdyk wins by KO Late

1/California
Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury
= Wilder wins by KO mid
Jarrett Hurd vs Jason Welborn
= Hurd wins by KO Mid
Luis Ortiz vs Travis Kauffman
= Ortiz wins by KO Early

8/Sheffield
Kell Brook vs Michael Zerafa
= Brook wins by KO Mid

8/California
Roman Gonzalez vs Pedro Guevara
= Gonzalez wins by UD

8/New York
Vasyl Lomachenko vs Jose Pedraza
= Lomachenko wins by KO Late
Isaac Dogboe vs Emanuel Navarrete
= Dogboe wins by KO Mid

14/Texas
Gilberto Ramirez vs Jesse Hart II
= Gilberto Ramirez wins by UD

15/New York
Rocky Fielding vs Saul Alvarez
= Canelo wins by KO Mid
David Lemieux vs Tureano Johnson
= Lemieux wins by KO Mid
Tevin Farmer vs Francisco Fonseca
= Farmer wins by UD

22/Manchester
Josh Warrington vs Carl Frampton
= Frampton wins by MD

22/London
Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora II
= Whyte wins by KO Late
Cristofer Rosales vs Charlie Edwards
= Rosales wins by KO Early

22/New York
Jermell Charlo vs Tony Harrison
= Jermell Charlo wins by KO Late
Jermall Charlo vs Willie Monroe Jr
= Jermall Charlo wins by KO Mid

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I would like to change to Jeffery Horn beats Anthony Mundine by KO/TKO 9-12

Oleksandr Gvozdyk beats Adonis Stevenson by UD

Tyson Fury beats Deontay Wilder by UD
Jarrett Hurd beats Jason Welborn by KO/TKO 5-8
Luis Ortiz beats Travis Kauffman by KO/TKO 5-8

Kell Brook beats Michael Zerafa by KO/TKO 1-4

Roman Gonzalez beats Pedro Guevara by UD

Vasyl Lomachenko beats Jose Pedraza by KO/TKO 5-8
Isaac Dogboe beats Emanuel Navarrete by UD

Jesse Hart beats Gilberto Ramirez by UD

Saul Alvarez beats Rocky Fielding by KO/TKO 5-8
David Lemieux beats Tureano Johnson by KO/TKO 1-4
Tevin Farmer beats Francisco Fonseca by UD

Carl Frampton beats Josh Warrington by UD

Dillian Whyte beats Dereck Chisora by UD
Cristofer Rosales beats Charlie Edwards by KO/TKO 9-12

Jermell Charlo beats Tony Harrison by KO/TKO 9-12
Jermall Charlo beats Willie Monroe Jr by KO/TKO 9-12

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I would like to change to Mike Wilson beats Denis Lebedev by UD

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See something you didn’t like at weigh in?

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Lebedev is old, has a lot of miles on him and probably isn't very motivated anymore. I'm just taking a chance on Wilson, I could easily be wrong.

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How many points do I have and how many do I need to win ?

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Only got the winners of 2 fights wrong and that Was Burnett and Vlasov, but I guess I wasn't accurate enough this month

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Not sure if I am doing this right but here are my picks per the fights Champ97 gave me:

Ramirez over Hart by SD
Alvarez over Fielding by KO/TKO 5-8
Farmer over Fonseca by UD
Lemieux over Johnson by KO/TKO 1-4
Frampton over Warrington by UD
Whyte over Chisora by SD
Rosales over Edwards by KO/TKO 5-8
Jermall Charlo over Monroe by UD
Jermell Charlo over Harrison by KO/TKO 5-8
Ioka over Nietes by UD

Is calling a SD the same as calling MD or are those considered two different things for our points?

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You did exactly the right thing, no they are the same for points.

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