The One: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Saul Alvarez Scorecard by Gold


scorecard by GOLD
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FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.
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120
SAUL ALVAREZ
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108

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Gold's picture

A virtuoso performance by Mayweather, one of the best in his career. Absolutely took Canelo to school.

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Not to try to start something, but I don't see a world where Rocky Fielding has even the slightest chance to win even given Canelo's disadvantages. Simply a levels fight for me. I complained about the David Lemieux fight, but if I knew this was the other option, I would take the David Lemieux fight all day no complaints.

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Fielding, in my opinion, should be at a world challenger level at Super Middleweight, sure he's almost certainly top 10 at Super Middleweight, but how good do we think Super Middleweight really is? Ryder is a domestic level win and a split decision at that. Good for Fielding to get back to it after getting blown out by Smith, which is still noteworthy because it wasn't that long ago. Zeuge is a decent contender level win, but Zeuge was only really like a top 15 level guy in my opinion. This is the biggest fight of Fielding's career by far, likely to be the biggest fight he's ever in, and this is just another day at the office for Canelo, another thing to consider.

Disagree, Lemieux is limited but his strength is really good and gives him a theoretical chance to be in any fight. Lemieux is a former champion, has a better resume than Fielding, a bigger name, is a legitimate Middleweight, etc. Chavez was 6'1 as well, Canelo beat him up easily, granted Chavez was only there to collect a check, but Canelo didn't have an issue closing distance.

I honestly think he has less of a chance of beating Canelo than David Price did of beating Povetkin. Canelo punches hard, fast, has great technique, insane chin, etc. I haven't watched Fielding's two split decisions, but if he is actually having issues with getting boxed at a domestic level, Canelo is going to give him hell. Another reason I think this will be a walkover for Canelo is that if Golden Boy thought Fielding was a legitimate risk, they would not take the fight. Them taking this fight on such short notice makes me believe it is just a tuneup to get a second fight in this year and to face a taller opponent for someone like Charlo. I would be surprised if Fielding is competitive at all, I will likely predict Canelo to win by mid round KO. From what I've seen of Fielding, he doesn't fit the Southpaw pure boxer that moves archetype that gave Canelo trouble vs. Trout and Lara, and he certainly doesn't have the pedigree those guys had coming into their fights with Canelo.

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Chris Eubank Jr also did "great" versus Saunders, Saunders improved a lot after the Akavov fight when he dropped Booth and went to the Ingles. If you think Zeuge is better than Anthony Dirrell he hasn't shown it. Anthony Dirrell is a former champion, fought competitively versus Jack and beat some decent contender level guys since he lost to Jack.

Massively disagree with saying Fielding is the more complete and adaptable fighter. Look at Canelo's CV, Canelo has fought nearly every style in the book and has improved over the years. Trout, Mayweather, Lara, Cotto, Golovkin. Again, we are talking about levels, Canelo has proven he is a complete and adaptable fighter on a world pound for pound level in the second Golovkin fight, he came forward versus the most feared puncher in boxing.

Fielding went to a split decision with Ryder a year and a half ago. Whatever you think about Ryder, he is on the domestic level for a reason. To say he can be on and off, I suppose that is just speculation, again, that can be used to justify any bad performance. You could easily say Smith got lucky, caught Fielding on an off night and Fielding could have won on another day, but what we know is Smith blew him out by KO 1. Smith was his greatest challenge and he was blown out, so I'm not sure you can say that.

Golden Boy wouldn't risk their one big check on a little known fighter like Fielding, even considering Canelo is going for such a quick turn around and going up in weight, obviously, they are extremely confident in Canelo's chances.

Disagree and I don't even think Lara and Trout are relevant to talk about anymore when referring to Canelo's weaknesses. Canelo is a lot better mover than he used to be.

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Yeah, Dirrell is not young, but he is much more proven, has a greater body of work. When I see guys like Zeuge fighting exclusively in Germany that's usually a big red flag for me that they aren't going to be fighting the top level opposition. Ryder may not be bad, I haven't seen him, but like I said there is a reason he hasn't stepped beyond that level.

Oh haha, I was really confused that you would make that argument. Fielding is certainly more adaptable than Lemieux, but how much does that matter? Lemieux is one of the least adaptable boxers in the sport, however, he has a huge punch. If there is one characteristic that will give an otherwise mediocre boxer a chance to win a world title, it is raw power. For me, I think Lemieux has a better chance to land one big lucky punch on Canelo than Fielding does to outbox him over twelve.

It's never good that someone is "occupied" as you say on a domestic level though regardless of how you cut it. Someone who is a quality fighter should be able to clean up at that level even if they are matched competitively. Perhaps he does fight to the level of his opponent, I haven't seen his domestic split decisions and I'm not really interested in watching them, so if you've seen them I'll just have to take your word on it.

I disagree unless you think Fielding will actually sell British PPV's that Canelo vs. Lemieux wouldn't. Lemieux isn't a name in the US and Fielding obviously isn't, but he sells Canadian PPV's and can be marketed as a big punching former champion, which I think is a fair assessment. Again, I just disagree entirely, they can watch his tape and see how good he is, very rarely does a 31 year old with 28 pro fights suddenly show something we haven't seen from them yet.

I'm not saying he is bad at world level, just that Canelo is a top 3 pound for pound fighter in the sport, so he will be able to overcome that. He is fresher, but I don't think Canelo will be in bad shape, if Canelo thought he couldn't do well in this fight I don't think he would take it. They both have a desire to win and Canelo has the big event experience, I don't think that is really a relevant point. Chavez Jr is the same size as Fielding, I don't think Canelo will have a problem with Fielding's size or power.

Golovkin probably would have won if this fight happened when it was first mandated, I agree. However, if this Canelo fought Lara, Trout, I think he would have won much more convincingly, he's improved a lot. I would be surprised if he didn't look good, as I've said, I think this is calculated by Golden Boy as a tune-up for Charlo and Canelo will sign to Showtime which is good for everyone.

Regarding Lewis Ritson, what are his best fights to watch? I know he's blown everyone out on the British level, now he's going to be fighting on the European level this weekend. I think they should and will take their time moving him up, he's only 25 and him beating Mikey or Loma would be tough to see. If he waits he can likely get a vacant title oppertunity in a year or two.

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The gap is larger between Alvarez and Fielding than it is between Povetkin and Price despite both Alvarez and Fielding being considerably better than both Povetkin and Price respectively. I really cannot see a world where Fielding comes forward and is able to land on Canelo without getting countered and lit up. If Golovkin couldn't do it with a granite chin, great jab and movement, I don't see a possible way Fielding can despite being a 6'1 Super Middleweight.

Will Fielding be able to impose his size on someone much more skilled and faster than him? I don't really think so, Canelo is a very good defensive fighter with elite upper body movement, I think he will be able to stand in the pocket with Fielding and light him up.

I'm going to watch the Cardle fight first, you should watch Aloyan vs. Espinoza if you haven't, I'd be curious to see your scorecard.

Saunders dropped the WBO title so Andrade will be fighting for the full title. At least we get a quick conclusion and there won't have to be an investigation. Saunders really screwed himself over. Lost the payday vs. Andrade win or lose and lost any opportunity to fight Golovkin/Canelo on PPV. What a waste, but can't feel sorry for him.

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Very highly doubt Canelo will gas out, if Golovkin couldn't go to the body, Fielding certainly won't be able to. Canelo will be happy to stay in one spot and counter Fielding, if Fielding thinks he can beat Canelo by walking him down that'll just be playing into Canelo's strengths. Golovkin also has one of the best jabs in boxing to set up the rest of his offense and he wasn't able to land a lot of power shots. He also won't have to be as good as he was versus Golovkin.

Like I said, if Fielding tries to walk Canelo down that will play into Canelo's style, if Canelo can stay on the ropes and counter I'm sure he'd love to have that fight. Fielding got blown out by Smith and has been floored since, so there is a question of how good Fielding's chin is. Golovkin has a fantastic chin and didn't think it was a good idea to try to walk through Canelo's power.

Very highly doubt Andrade will fight Charlo or Jacobs. Regardless of who it was that held it, Saunders or Andrade, this belt was always going to be cashed out versus Canelo or Golovkin. No use in taking a massive risk for a lot less money versus Charlo or Jacobs when they can sit on the belt for a little while to get a PPV fight.

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For the next round of MW's, I want to see GGG-Murata, Jacobs/Derev winner vs Charlo, Andrade vs either Murray, as a nice, tester fight that also adds a solid name on his resume, or if Munguia can't get the unification fight, or big fights he's looking to early next year, he'll likely move up, and with him holding the WBO at 154, I'd love to see him vs Andrade. Then after Alvarez-Fielding, we'll get either Charlo or GGG against him, and then Andrade-Murray/Munguia winner takes a tune-up, waiting for the smoke to clear, and a unification fight. What do you guys think of a scenario like that?

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Seems relatively likely they will do Canelo vs. Charlo as long as Canelo signs to Showtime, Charlo is the mandatory to Canelo's WBC title and I don't think he would pass up that payday for another title opportunity. I don't think Jacobs vs. Derevyanchenko winner vs. Charlo will happen unless Derevyanchenko wins, Jacobs is with Matchroom/DAZN, it would be easier and would make more money for Eddie to make Jacobs vs. Andrade, but also I think there is a decent chance of Andrade vs. Golovkin after Golovkin vs. Murata. Andrade having a voluntary defense versus Murray definitely seems plausible to me. I can't see Munguia moving up and facing Andrade, there are too many obstacles to making that happen and it doesn't make the monetary sense for Munguia like moving up to face Canelo would. I don't think Canelo is really interested in unifying the whole division either, and he may not be able to due to network issues.

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Yeah that's true, unfortunately, it only works in weights where the money the WBSS brings can overpower any potential network conflicts.