Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury

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Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury
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Saturday, December 1, 2018
Staples Center, Los Angeles, California, USA
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WBC Heavyweight World Title (Wilder's 8th defence)


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Champion97's picture


Awesome that this fight is on!
Seems like Joshua vs Wilder wasn't going to happen because the teams couldn't agree, but Fury doesn't have the privileges of a unified champion like Joshua does, he couldn't claim as much, so Wilder's team could take the deal, make the fight, and be happy with the terms. This is a very ideal fight for Wilder, a win would be great for his resume, because when it comes to comparing what he has achieved to Joshua, his problem has been not only that he has 1 belt and Joshua has 3, but also that Joshua's win over Klitschko has been the difference, and even when Wilder beat Ortiz, it wasn't really as significant as Joshua's best win, but if Wilder beats Fury, he beats the guy who beat Klitschko, which would definitely make him, on paper, in terms of names beaten, every bit as much of a proven fighter as his rival. Wilder cannot look past Fury, the Joshua fight is still a possibility for the future, but Wilder doesn't need to think about fighting Joshua at all until he has beaten Fury, and he shouldn't overlook Fury, because Fury is a threat.

I think Tyson Fury, in terms of boxing and fighting potential, had what it took to be the best heavyweight in history, I knew he would beat Klitschko, but, timing is important in boxing. I think Fury is better than Wilder, I think defensively, in terms of footwork, being a complete, compact boxer, Fury is much the superior, but Wilder is an outstanding puncher, an extremely dangerous fighter, he has that fight changing power, and he hits much harder than Fury.

Timing is important, and although Fury, at 250-260, having done a one sided, easy 10 rounds, training hard, still only 30, is solid fitness wise, has good stamina, he still doesn't have the stamina, athleticism of Wilder, because although Fury has whipped himself into shape, he was about 370lbs when Wilder was training, fighting, in great shape, consistently, just as he is now, and Fury can't have built up that level of fitness in the time he has had since he was out of the gym, obese, and even taking cocaine.

This is not necessarily Puncher vs Boxer, because Wilder has had 8 fights in 2015-now, Fury has had 4 fights in that time, he had no fights in 2016 or 17, that's a big difference in activity, and when a fighter has been active, he can get into that rhythm, his reflexes, timing, it is there, it comes to together for the fighter, but a rusty, inactive fighter struggles to find his rhythm, he's sloppy, his timing is off, and he is more likely to slip up and make mistakes. Fury has had two fights since Wilder's last fight, that helps him, that lessens his inactivity issue, but given that Wilder had 5 fights in Fury's 30 months out, and Wilder fought at a much higher level overall, Fury's two comeback fights don't nearly compensate, and activity is still on Wilder's side, no doubt.

I think 4 of Wilder's 5 opponents during Fury's layoff, were better than either of Fury's comeback opponents, I think the weakest of the 7 is Fury's first comeback opponent, by far the strongest is Wilder's last opponent, so in terms of levels they have been competing at in the last 3 years, you would have to say Wilder is much better prepared for this fight.

Wilder is a brilliant offensive fighter, he has a good, accurate jab, and his variety, timing, accuracy, precision, brilliant, he has devastating power, he has that high output, and he carries his power into the late rounds, as he has proven several times. Wilder has a great, varied offensive arsenal, he lands at angles, he can land hurtful straight shots, he is very unpredictable, and when he has you hurt, he is on you in the twinkling of an eye, he is a brilliant finisher. The counter that Wilder landed to start the last onslaught on Ortiz, the right hand that sparked Szpilka, that was class, that was a brilliant, accurate, well timed right hand, Wilder has great focus, he can hit you when you don't see it coming, he waits to catch you off guard. Wilder was in terrible trouble against Ortiz, and he took a sustained beating, when he was close to gone, when his senses were gone, but although Ortiz was hitting him with one clean, crushing shot after another, Wilder did not go down, Ortiz couldn't finish him, Wilder proved to be extremely durable, proved to have a great chin, and was able to recover, come back from being on the egde of defeat, to stopping his opponent.

I have always said it, Tyson Fury is dangerous when he is hurt, when he doesn't get hit, he picks up the points, as he did against Johnson, Chisora, but when he was dropped against Cunningham, he ended up turning the tables, knocking Cunningham out, and when Pajkic had him on his back, he came and stopped him in the next round. Against Klitschko, when Klitschko was reluctant, gunshy for 10 rounds, Fury defended, just did enough work to keep taking the rounds, boxed extremely well, showed a lot of ring IQ, but when Klitschko took more risks, came forward in the last 2 rounds, Fury became more dangerous, had Klitschko in trouble late in round 11. What is very interesting, is if Wilder hits Fury clean, hurts him, and jumps all over him, what happens then?, does Fury have the power to hurt Wilder? Fury is dangerous when he is hurt, but to what extent?, he has never faced a puncher like Wilder, when he is out on his feet, dazed, what can he physically drag out of himself? Fury is a big heavyweight, so he shouldn't age quickly, but cocaine takes a toll on the brain, Fury has been down hard twice, hurt a few times, how is his resistance comapred to what it was? And how is his recovery comapred to what it was?

Wilder is 33, still young for a heavyweight, he is of African descent, which is an advantage, and although he has hand issues, usually takes punches, I don't think he has too many miles, Washington, Szpilka, unable to hurt him, he was very briefly hurt against Duhaphas and Molina, but didn't get dropped or take much in the follow up, he has been down once, a while ago, and against Ortiz, he took serious damage, which may have permanently taken something away from his punch resistance, but the beating did only last 45 seconds, it wasn't a round by round beatdown, Wilder will have benefited from the 9 month rest between fights, and that is the only time we have ever seen him beaten up and in real trouble.

I think Wilder is still the slightly fresher fighter, and I think in terms of who holds up naturally better when they get hit, who is harder to hurt, I think that is Wilder.

This is how I think it will go down.

Fury wins the first 2 rounds quite clearly, his movement is good, he feints, uses his reach, attacks the body, and Wilder isn't letting shots go. Wilder is patient, lands a good counter right hand, drops Fury, Fury, maybe off balance. Wilder lands a smashing right hand down the middle to end round 3, hurts Fury.

Fury is too slick, too smart in rounds 4 and 5, jabs, mixes stances, lands good, clean combinations, defends well. Fury struggles for pace after 5 rounds, Wilder does well in round 6, jabs, but Fury lands a few shots.

In round 7, Fury opens up more, but Wilder does better when Fury takes chances, and he lands flush right hand to the chin, drops Fury. Fury is hurt, but lands a flush left hand to the chin, puts Wilder down, Wilder gets up, hurt, and they go to war, have the round of the year. Wilder is cagey in round 8, Fury moves, pot shots, but late in the round, Wilder nails Fury with a few big shots in the closing seconds. Fury hurts Wilder to start round 9, unleashes an onslaught, and has a good 2 minutes, but doesn't drop Wilder, Wilder weathers the storm, and Fury slumps on his stool.

Fury seems gassed in round 10, and Wilder drops Fury heavily, Fury gets up, but is in trouble, and Wilder isn't careless, and when Fury seems to have partly recovered, Wilder hurts him again. Wilder starts round 11 with a clean right uppercut which rocks Fury, Fury trades, and they go to war again. Wilder lands the more damaging shots in round 11, and Fury hits the wall late in the round, Wilder lands a brutal left hook to deck Fury, Fury staggers to his corner. They go to war in round 12, neither fresh, but Fury pushes out arm punches, and can't drag out hard shots. Wilder gets the better of the brawl, and midway through round 12, lands a phenomenal counter right hand, knocks Fury out cold.

Wilder KO in 12.

I wonder what the rematch clause situation for this fight. The winner of this fight, against the winner of Joshua vs Povetkin, next year, could be one of the biggest fights in boxing history.

Fury is a threat, I wouldn't be shocked if he won this, there is only one Tyson Fury, but I think he has been too inactive, doesn't have the power, will suffer the consequences of his years away from boxing, Wilder is also a great fighter, and I'm 70% sure Fury will lose.

KaiserKoba's picture

Agreed. I definitely give Wilder the edge to win this by KO at anytime during the fight. Fury's slickness and reach advantage will be annoyance for Wilder getting picked off by the jab, he can wait till he's 6-0 down and still pull out a right hand to end the fight.

Wilder at the high level always seems to enjoy counter-punching (how he pulled out the win against Ortiz more or less). Fury better be wise to keep feinting and land a few eye catching shots to win the round and give Wilder as little opportunity to counter as possible. Wilder always looks pretty terrible as the attacker on the front foot and does all sorts of strange things (virtually swinging forearms).

Nice breakdown overall.

Champion97's picture


I think he wants to make Fury work, because when Fury is fatuiged, he is more likely to leave an opening later, and Wilder can land clean, hurt Fury, and when Wilder has you hurt, he is all over you, he has variety, versatility, stamina.

He did that going backwards, what a shot! Does he have that in the tank? the 3 minute focus?, movement?, reactions? I don't think so, Wilder only needs one mistake. He swings wildly, but he is effective, sometimes he does the wrong thing, makes the fight tougher than it needs to be, but other times, he is more sensible.

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KaiserKoba's picture

Is it a bit like: ?
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Champion97's picture

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