Mon, 2018-08-20 09:49
If Pedraza beats Beltran, you win the competition, you confident?, because I agree Pedraza wins, but it seems like half disagree.
Mon, 2018-08-20 10:33
I'm not super confident, Pedraza didn't look too good from what I saw in his last fight but Beltran looked vulnerable versus Moses as well. I think Pedraza is more quality overall and therefore he'll win.
Mon, 2018-08-20 11:09
He's fresher, younger as well, and Pedraza has power, Beltran does too though I suppose. Should be great fight, because both fighters are dangerous, but are vulnerable, I lean towards the younger, fresher fighter. It is good that after his tough career, Beltran won a world title, every fighter dreams of winning a world title, and in my opinion, it isn't just great fighters who it is good to see win world titles, it is great to see fighters like Crolla, Hall, Farmer, fighters of that calibre win world titles as well, even if they don't defend for long if at all, boxing is also about achieving what you can, trying your best, but at the same time, when all 4 belts are occupied, when all the champions are great fighters, and we get to see unification fights, that's what we need in boxing.
I wouldn't mind seeing Lomachencko vs the winner of Beltran vs Pedraza at the end of the year in a unification fight, you?
Mon, 2018-08-20 13:39
Yeah, I think Pedraza will win for similar reasons, more skilled, younger, and fewer miles. Considering Lomachenko is coming off a shoulder injury, I don't really mind that fight but I'd rather see Pacquiao vs. Lomachenko.
Mon, 2018-08-20 14:44
I wouldn't mind seeing that fight, I still think Lomachencko is better than Pacquiao ever was, I can see why you disagree, but there are not many better challenges for Lomachencko I can think of.
Here is my take on Joshua vs Povetkin, I would give Joshua a slight edge, say he is just a notch up, if they were the same size and age, but Joshua has big age and size advantages. I think Joshua will struggle to get Povetkin into a position to be hit like he did against Parker, and he might not want to lead off with power shots, Povetkin will be more consistent, less flawed, but I don't think Povetkin can walk through Joshua's punches like Parker did, I think he will tire, and when Joshua has him hurt, he will stop him.
Mon, 2018-08-20 17:03
The closer the fight gets the more I think Joshua will win easily, Povetkin is old and visibly declining. It is going to be hard for Povetkin to get in range to land anything, Joshua will box on the outside and use his jab. When Povetkin does get in range Joshua will clinch or use the uppercut to punish Povetkin in close. Povetkin will get stopped in the mid to late rounds.
Tue, 2018-08-21 01:39
That's what Joshua should do, but Povetkin is still a solid, compact boxer, takes openings, finds gaps, doesn't make mistakes, so I think Joshua should try to make Povetkin work in the early rounds, try to make Povetkin tire. That's another thing, Povetkin can be an ugly fighter, use clinches, but Joshua can use his strength, just push Povetkin down, to the canvas, make Povetkin have to keep getting off the deck, and this shouldn't happen but if the referee is as terrible (you want to talk about bad refs, Ian John Lewis isn't that bad, that terrible ref for Klit vs Pov) as the ref for Klitschko vs Povetkin, Joshua might get himself some extra points for pushing Povetkin to the canvas.
Tue, 2018-08-21 05:21
He's going to have to take chances versus Joshua which means he will inevitably make mistakes. If Joshua does what Klitschko did he should have points deducted, it is illegal to throw people to the canvas like Klitschko did. Ian John Lewis is one of the worst referees working today, his performance in Vitali Klitschko vs. Shannon Briggs is one of the all-time worst referee performances. He definitely should have deducted a point from both Stevenson and Whyte in recent fights as well plus the failed knockdown call which are all bad. If it is him, Howard Foster, or Terry O'Connor I expect Joshua will be allowed to do whatever he pleases.
Tue, 2018-08-21 05:50
Well we'd say that, but sometimes, fighters don't take the chances, Klitschko didn't against Fury, Chavez didn't against Canelo, Povetkin might end up like that, where he just frustrates you by standing there thinking and not doing. Not sure I agree on that, a back of the head shot should be an immediate point deduction because that is lethal, a ballshot as well, headbutt, or anything malicious, but pushing and shoving, rough house tactics, meh, I don't think he should have points deducted unless he does it a lot of times, or hurls Povetkin down hard, but point deductions aside, one thing is for sure, you should not be awareded for pushing your opponent over, and twice in the Klitschko vs Povetkin fight, I saw Klitschko push or manhandle Povetkin to the floor, and the referee would count for a knockdown.
Terry O'Connor and Ian John Lewis are ok in my opinion, Foster stinks, but you want to talk about bad referees, let's talk about Vic Drakulich and Laurence Cole, because in my opinion, O'Connor and John Lewis are much better than those fools, but, in general, America has better referees, we have good refs, Williams and Gray are good refs, and Byrd, Reiss, Fields, Fitch, Nady, Caiz, all good refs.
Tue, 2018-08-21 08:23
Well I'm going to go into it with what I believe is a fair assumption, that Povetkin will try to win the fight unlike Chavez did against Canelo. Pushing like Wlad did to Povetkin should definitely be a deduction, which I forgot he had actually been deducted a point but way too late in the 11th. Getting shoved down like that is very draining and can potentially cause an injury.
I don't agree with your overall assessment but there are good and bad referees everywhere, I just don't want to see bad referees keep getting assignments.
Tue, 2018-08-21 09:12
Yeah give him the benefit of the doubt, fair enough. I think the deduction should have come earlier than the 11th, given many pushes, throws there were, how much excessive holding there was. That's true, twist a knee, turn an ankle over, or worse, an achilles.
This is a rough and tumble sport, but at the same time, I understand people want to keep it clean as best they can.
Golovkin vs Alvarez II undercard is coming together well, Braekhus is brilliant, Lemieux vs O'Sullivan should be a good fight, Munguia is on the card against Cook, and of course Gonzalez is returning, I don't think he should be at 115, he is not big enough, and even without considering the weight aspect, he's really not young for a small fighter, and the damage he took in his last two fights after a busy career, busy schedule, I just don't think we will see anywhere near the Gonzalez we saw in the Cuadras fight and earlier.
Tue, 2018-08-21 09:45
I'm really surprised that they've gone out and stacked the undercard this well, usually pay per view boxing events don't have good undercards. The first Canelo vs. Golovkin fight had a poor undercard. The only omission I can think of is Ryan Garcia, I'm surprised Golden Boy didn't throw him on there versus a mediocre opponent because it would be really good exposure for him. I am interested to see how Lemieux vs. O'Sullivan and Gonzalez's return play out. The Munguia fight should be good as well to see how well he can utilize this opportunity as a showcase.
Tue, 2018-08-21 10:10
The first one had decent fights with unbeaten fighters, but not at a high level, I don't think Ryan Garcia fighting is more significant than Diego De La Hoya and Joseph Diaz though. Cook might be the perfect opponent as well, good enough and prepared enough that Munguia can impress by doing a job on him, not too good an opponent coming off that hard fight against Liam Smith. In my opinion the best card coming up is Beterbiev vs Johnson
Tue, 2018-08-21 10:26
Ryan Garcia isn't more significant but he is a much greater potential draw although he is still a really raw prospect and may not make it to the world level.
I think the Canelo vs. Golovkin II card is a lot better as a whole considering the main event is a historically significant rematch, but I can see an argument in saying the undercard for Beterbiev vs. Johnson is slightly better.
Tue, 2018-08-21 10:36
I think De La Hoya has as good a chance to be a world level contender as Garcia.
Both good undercards.
Tue, 2018-08-21 14:07
I'm not saying who has a better chance to be a good boxer, but who has potential to be a greater draw. Garcia is already a good draw on a regional level.
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