Wed, 2018-08-15 13:33
Trout definitely had an off night against Lara, because he looked terrible the second the bell sounded, in the intros, he looked subdued, and you would wonder why Lara beat him so easily, relative to how much Canelo struggled, legitimately, beat Trout like Taylor beat Postol, and it isn't about styles. Trout, against Charlo, was very nearly as good as he was against Cotto, heck, he isn't a shot fighter even now. Impressive victory for both Charlos, but especially for Jermall.
Wed, 2018-08-15 19:44
Really don't know what you are talking about regarding Trout in the Lara fight, that simply isn't what Trout was doing. Trout came out and tried to do what he does in almost every fight, box in the center of the ring. He looked absolutely fine, not "subdued". That is an illogical argument to say it isn't about styles, Trout was able to exploit some of Canelo's weaknesses against slick boxers while getting in a pure boxing match is exactly what Lara wants. That's why Canelo fought closely versus Trout and Lara blew Trout out, not because Trout "had an off night". His "off night" was trying to get in a boxing match with Lara, but what else was he going to do. You could just as easily say Canelo had an off night versus Mayweather because he's done well in other fights which is just as illogical. Of course, to you, Trout was nearly as good as he was versus Cotto and Canelo when he faced Charlo when he hadn't faced a meaningful opponent in years, yet when Lara faces Trout right after the Canelo fight Trout just had an off night. The Charlo's have thin resumes, especially Jermell, so it probably is their best win for each of them. Hurd beating Lara in an extremely close split decision was a better win than either Jermall or Jermell have on their records.
Fri, 2018-08-17 11:22
It is simple, I'm saying Trout was obviously not at his best.
I don't dislike you, but you are simply wrong when you say that, Trout, mentally, was not at the races against Lara, he did not look absolutely fine.
No, it wasn't about styles, had Trout been at his best, he would have exploited Lara's low punch output. It was definitely because Trout had an off night!
No it's not, it's different for a few reasons, and one of them is how Alvarez looked bad after 2 narrow rounds, well Trout looked subdued in the ring intros.
There is a reason for that, because Trout was coming off a loss, wasn't prepared for Lara, against Charlo, he was just a different fighter, he was coming off dominant wins, against steady opponents, not bums, sometimes, it is just what you see in the fight, and I'm telling you, as sure as I am that Crawford would beat McGregor, that Trout had an off night against Lara, I'm not saying Hurd and Canelo had off nights against Lara, I'm not saying Charlo had an off night against Trout.
Yes, and they are good wins, of the 5 losses for Trout it is
I agree on that, Lara is better than Trout, but not much.
I gave Trout 6 rounds against Hurd and Canelo, 5 against each Charlo, 2 against Lara, that's not styles.
Basically, Trout definitely had a bad day at the office against Lara, no question, simple as that, end of discussion, make of it what you will.
Fri, 2018-08-17 18:01
You are speculating on the smallest level about the psychology of Trout and making up how he was acting during the introductions. Remember when you got mad because I explained it would make sense for Bradley to keep saying he beat Pacquiao even with the backlash even though he didn't, called me a therapist and called it excuses. He fought in the same style he always fights in, it just wasn't effective because Lara has a good stylistic matchup and Lara is a lot better at that style.
He couldn't exploit Lara's low output because he was afraid of getting countered and put down which is what happened. If he was more aggressive he would have been countered more by the better boxer in Lara.
What do you mean he wasn't prepared for Lara? That was his big shot to be relevant again at a championship level, Lara wasn't some unknown guy, everyone knew he was a very good tactical boxer. Versus Jermall Charlo he was fighting low-level opposition for years, he wasn't fighting top level guys. Versus Jermell he was clearly past it, especially after the Hurd stoppage. He was coming off a loss but versus an extremely high-level opponent in a fight he did very well in. That's not a big negative for Trout. Lara was just that much better strengths versus strengths which is how the fight was fought.
Trout's worst loss was to Lara by far because he didn't even get out of the gates. He just got schooled and made to look amateurish when he wasn't. None of his other losses were that bad.
Lara is way better than Trout in a head to head peak level versus peak level sense and he showed that in the ring. The way Trout fights is just going to be an unwinnable fight for him versus Lara no matter what.
It is styles, Hurd was not trying to point fight versus Trout, he was trying to wear Trout down and knock him out which is why he lost the early rounds. He won a lot of rounds versus Canelo because him and Lara as outside Southpaw boxers were bad style matchups for Canelo. The Charlo's don't do well when they can't just overpower their opponents, they can be boxed to a degree, especially Jermell. Lara versus Trout was a battle of strengths and Lara is a far superior technical outside boxer than Trout. It isn't even close.
Lara was just that much better than Trout on that day that he made Trout look amateurish.
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