Wadi Camacho vs Danny Couzens II

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Wadi Camacho vs Danny Couzens II
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Date: 
Saturday, March 17, 2018
Location: 
York Hall, Bethnal Green, London, England, UK
Rounds Scheduled: 
10
Contracted Weight: 
200
Titles at Stake: 
BBBofC Cruiserweight Southern Area Title. Eliminator for the Cruiserweight Commonwealth Title
Referee: 
Lee Cook

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Fan Cards: Wadi Camacho vs Danny Couzens II


scorecard by ZAC.RJ
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
WADI CAMACHO
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
80
DANNY COUZENS
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
72


scorecard by BOXING PURIST
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
WADI CAMACHO
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
80
DANNY COUZENS
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
72


scorecard by BOXING KNOWLEDGE
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
WADI CAMACHO
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
80
DANNY COUZENS
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
72


Comments

Champion97's picture

Prediction,

I think Camacho wins, and by stoppage.

Boxing Purist's picture

I'll keep looking, but I only caught the stoppage of this one.

Champion97's picture

I owe you an apology for some of the stuff I said, I don't apologise for insulting what you said, and you certainly shouldn't have sent that first comment as a direct reply to my comment, but I apologise for the bad language and the prolonged overreaction.

Boxing Purist's picture

It's okay, I also apologize for saying things about you the person that were out of line. We should agree not to touch on the subject again. Right or wrong I have my strong opinions on HW, and right or wrong you have your differing opinions on the same subject. I would rather not get into something like that with anyone on here, especially someone that works so hard keeping this place as awesome as it is. No more negative comments about Deontay Wilder from me, I assure you.

Champion97's picture

That's good enough for me.
Me neither, I do not enjoy those heated arguments, I hated every second of that immature argument we had, from now on, if we disagree, then move on from the topic.
I don't think Joshua vs Wilder has to be the elephant in the room to be honest, as long the discussion is a healthy debate. I was wrong about Wilder vs Ortiz being a mismatch, but I honestly thought it would be, the reason why in my opinion Joshua vs Wilder is a 50/50 fight is because of what they have both achieved in the sport, the similarity of where they are in their careers, I think Joshua is the more complete boxer, and I think when Wilder is in the ring, the whole fight is more dangerous, more dangerous for him, more dangerous for the opponent, if the fight happens in 2020 or later, I think Joshua wins, and time is on his side, and if they fight next year, Joshua wins every round and stops Wilder in 6, the hats off to you, in that regard, it is about opinions.

I will recreate the fights I deleted.

Boxing Purist's picture

I just caught that last bit, thank you for being willing to add Riston's fights again. I really think he could be special, kid is a ton of fun to watch. I've been meaning to ask you, what are you thoughts on Matchroom, but more specifically Eddie Hearn? I love the guy, think he's great for boxing, and I really appreciate what he plans on doing for boxing here in the states. However I watch his IFL TV interviews on youtube, and british fans seem to really hate this man. I mean they tear him a new one in the comments section of the vids every time he's on, yet he gets the most views of regular interviewee's on the show. Do you hate him as well being that you're Brtish, and if yes or no could you explain to me, why this guy gets so much hate over there. I think he's the best promoter in the world at promoting.

Champion97's picture

The least I can do, I was out of line deleting them.

Well first of all, I think Eddie Hearn is the best boxing promoter who has ever lived, he works hard, he delivers, he's smart, he's reasonable, I like Eddie Hearn. Here's the thing, Hearn talks, acts like a guy you wouldn't trust as far as you can spit, he's teh sort of guy you sometimes want to throw an egg at, but ultimately, that his just a businessman exterior, all people who are in that kind of job are a bit like that, and more importantly, people do not like when he says certain things about DW, and "Anthony Joshua will always get more than 50%", but ultimately, you can't always have your cake and eat it in life, if people don't like him, that's tough, but sometimes in boxing, which is a business as we both know as well as a sport, you have to be smart before you are fair, and that's what it is.

It is hard to interpret over the Internet, but if people don't like him the way you find any famous person a bit annoying, then that's meaningless, and people appreciate what Hearn does for the sport, but if people seriously hate him, then I don't understand that, I do get that the financial situation with Anthony Joshua seems unfair, but he makes a godo case, doesn't lie, and interestingly, and it is the truth, Parker and Wilder might only get 30%, still a much higher amount of dollars than they have ever made in a fight before, and if Hearn can make his fighter that much money, he is going to do that.

Final answer is that, without being rude, many people over here don't really understand boxing, some find him arrogant, some thinks he makes it all about him, but, I do not agree, he is a great promoter, I don't think he is really arrogant, he isn't a cheapskate, and he doesn't take too much credit.

Boxing Purist's picture

Thank you for the well worded response, I was asking because I just watched Hearn's reaction after Quigg lost to Frampton. He was honest, he scored it for Frampton, he thought a judging scoring for Quigg couldn't be justified, while not being a jerk about it. He was gracious in defeat, and gave props to both Carl and Shane McGuggian (who I felt came off like a arrogant jerk in the build up, and a bad winner, taking a shot at Eddie on camera during this interview with his "1 nill LOL" comment just after Hearn praised him and his fighter for the win. He was honest in saying there wasn't enough done in the fight where there would be a demand for a rematch, and just overall handled the loss for his fighter with class. Yet you wouldn't believe 95% of the comments for that vid, people taking shots, and judging him harsh where it should have been respect for his honesty and praise of the other camp despite their arrogance. When Matchroom was run by his father Barry did British fans also hate him this much?

Champion97's picture

Ultimately, YouTube comments sections, the general Internet discussion, is full of BS, I hate it, and make it a rule not to even look.

I'm afraid that's before my time. My assumption is that social media not being as big, he probably had it easier.

Smith vs Groves who you got?

Boxing Purist's picture

Ooo good one can't wait in fact! Groves has had something of a resurgence in his career after back to back stoppage loses to one of the all time great British SMW's in Carl Froch. Shane McGuiggan while he rubs me the wrong way has done wonders for George Groves, credit where credit's due Shane is a fantastic young coach, and Groves despite not looking fantastic against either Murray, Cox, or Eubank under Shane has only gotten better, if not a smarter boxing brain, and on a winning mindset in big fights. Smith got the much easier side of the bracket ( I might say in part due to Hearn's friendship/partnership with Kallie Saunderland), although Skoglund certainly gave him a run for his money. Ultimately Smith hasn't looked great in the WBSS either, but both appear to have the talent to win this thing. Being that I can't really call this based off either's first 2 bouts in the series, I think the pedigree of Groves and his rejuvenation under Shane McGuiggan's watch will lead him to victory possibly by mid round stoppage, a Ali trophy, a huge payday, and probably his legacy defining accomplishment of his career. But Saint George has to fight to the gameplan, stay behind that wonderful jab, and use those beautiful feints that worked so masterfully against CEJ, because Smith does pack the power to end Groves night early on the losing side, I believe.

Who you got?

Champion97's picture

It is very tough to make a prediction, it really is a 50/50 fight.
I think on a hit and don't get hit basis, you have to say Groves is superior, but when you bring otner aspects into it, like strength, stamina, durability, maybe mentality, it is much easier to lean towards Smith. I think at this point, looking good somewhat goes out the window, at this level, against Skoglund, Chudinov, you win, and in doing that, you prove yourself.

Groves, tactically, is a different fighter with McGuigan, and a good fighter/trainer relationship is very important, but in terms of how he holds up against punches, he is the same as ever, and I think what could be crucial is how often Smith is able to drag Groves into the trenches. I think Smith is very adaptable, he rises to the occasion, and is only disappointing against under challenging opposition.

Both have a lot of power, but Smith has the better chin no question, he's bigger, the fresher fighter, then again, Groves, 29, by no means old, the more experienced, competed at a higher level, and we shouldn't underestimate the importance of defence, also, the jab, if you box, you'll know, your trainer keeps telling you, "that jab, that will win you fights", and Grives is the boxer with the better jab.

It's close, but I think Smith will win, probably by late stoppage, mayhe round 9, would not be shocked if Groves won a UD, I would be very surprised if Groves got a stoppage, but it could happen.

How about Giant Lomachenko vs Gassiev?

Boxing Purist's picture

I honestly get pretty close to the same way as you reacted when it comes to fighters from the past like Hagler, Ali, Heanrs, Arguello etc., So I understand where you are coming from and I do apologize. And I hope we can get along, and maybe even be friends in the future.

Champion97's picture

Hagler and Arguello are two very underrated historic fighters!
Sure why not mate :)

Boxing Purist's picture

Thank you my friend, this site would fall to pieces without you. Well I don't want to put the other people who work hard to make this site run great down, so I'll change that to wouldn't be as awesome of a place without your hard work.

Champion97's picture

Thanks man.

You think Ritson stops Cardle inside 6 rounds?

Boxing Purist's picture

If he engages early I can see him stopping Cardle inside 6, if he takes his time and allows Scott to wear himself out with all that movement I can see Riston stopping Cardle in the 8th.

Champion97's picture

I wouldn't mind mind seeing Ritson against Crolla if Ritson beats Cardle and Crolla beats Ramirez, what do you think of that as a step up fight?

Boxing Purist's picture

I'm a fan of Crolla, I think that would be a great test for Riston! I'd really like to see Riston vs Campbell within Lewis' next couple fights, if Hearn can build Sandman up enough to that matchup.