Liam Smith vs Liam Williams II Scorecard by Boxing Knowledge


scorecard by BOXING KNOWLEDGE
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LIAM SMITH
9
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10
115
LIAM WILLIAMS
10
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9
113

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Champion97's picture

I thought Smith was much better this time than last time, close fight, but you know a fighter won when the opponent says so.

Smith did a better job of mixing up his punches punch selection improved and he fought a more active fight Smith let his hand go in more rounds this bout Smith work rate also improved.

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If Cotto retires, assuming he gets past your pal, who is a tough opponent, then the title will be vacant, and Smith will fight for it, I wonder if he could get the shot, against the right opponent, become a world champion again. We used to think over here, that Smitn would beat Lara, but to be honest, to beat Lara, I think Smith would have to wait for Lara to gets so past his prime, they'd both be over the hill when the fight came, I don't think Smith beats Hurd, Charlo, but I think he could win a title against a decreased level of opposition, doesn't have to be a bum either, I would say he beats an Ishe Smith, Carlos Molina, Willie Nelson, I also think he could beat Julian Williams, if Smith does win the title again, I think he is a challanging opponent for anyone in the division, gives them all a tough fight.

I like Lara J Rock and other top of the division fighters over Liam Smith the only Smith brother that I'am big on is Callum Smith Callum the Smith brother that's championship world level.

No way Liam Smith Beats Julian Williams. J-Roc was going head to head with Charlo till he got stopped. He has way too much speed and boxing iq for smith to deal with, considering smith had some problems already with Liam Williams boxing ability. I dont see smith having the power like Jermall Charlo to stop J-Roc either.

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That's what you think. Yeah that's the thing though isn't it?, it is not a 5 round fight, let's think not about the 2 rounds Williams won against Charlo, and use it to confirm him, a class above Liam Smith, who is better than you think, he did great against Canelo, and he wasn't even at his best, I gave him 2 rounds, went 9 rounds, he "went head to head" with Canelo plenty, had great success, Smith is a big light middleweight, he has a lot of skills, a great pressure fighter, look what he did to John Thompson, I'm not saying Thompson is as good as J Williams, but still, you can not blame anybody for predicting a guy who goes 9 rounds with Canelo, has been a world champion, defended his belt twice, as has boxed very well, to beat Julian Williams, a guy who got drilled in 5 in his only big fight, (by the way, I'd give Austin Trout a 90% chance of beating him), he's not Charlo, he's a class below, or was that a lucky punch? :)
After I went through this same thing when I told everyone, everyone thought I was crazy, I told everyone that Tyson Fury would beat Wladimir Klitschko, I told everyone Tony Bellew would beat David Haye, I told everyone Ward had a good chance of stopping Kovalev, so don't think I'm going to be convinced by some random fan who insists that Liam Smith can't beat Julian Williams, if Williams would be a favourite, he would not be nearly as big a favourite as Klitschko was over Fury, or Haye was.

What you have to look at here, what you bave to understand, is that Liam Smith, he uses his size, breaks opponents down, he sustains pressure, when he had Canelo on the ropes, unloaded, you think Williams would deal well with that?, I think the jab to the body from Liam Smith would be a great weapon, he'd drain Williams I think, he is consistent, he lands in volume. What makes you think having trouble with Liam Williams boxing ability means he can't beat Julian Williams?, Smith have Williams more trouble with his boxing ability, the jab, the lateral movement, the varieity, the way Smith digs down to the body, it is leathal, he could stop Julian Williams I think, but hey, would be a great match up.

I agree, i'd love to see these guys go at it with eachother, would be great for the division aswell. Smith just faced a guy called williams and williams is facing a guy called smith so it would only be rightful to do so. As for the Canelo fight i didn't see that fight as a close fight, i thought Canelo was beating him up, it was a bit competitive at times but not close at all in comparison to the J.Williams and Charlo fight where there were alot of times where J-Roc set up Charlo with feints for a countershot or a straight right, in a close fight. Charlo ultimately outsmarted him and set up a beautiful uppercut that ended the fight. If i see the problems smith was having with a boxer like L.Williams (especially in their first fight) who uses a great jab, footwork and has some solid handspeed like J-Roc has ,but i think J-Roc excels even more in those departments, it is hard to imagine smith beating him. I can't underestimate smith though, he's a tough dude with alot of grit and showed that he can box very well in the rematch with Liam for example, so who knows, the fight would definitely be competetive either way.

J Rock would have at least won some rounds vs Canelo. Liam has ability but against top guys at 154 pounds Liam Smith going down like I said when its all said and done Callum Smith is the Smith brother to look out for check him out if you want to support a Uk fighter with a real chance a winning on the world level.

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Oh I don't doubt it, I'm not saying he would beat Charlo, Lara, or others, if they move up one day, I wouldn't think he'd beat Spence, Thurman, I just don't see Williams as a fighter in that class either, let's see how he does against Ishe Smith.
I don't disagree!, we've been saying over here for years that Callum is the most talented of the 4, he started the youngest I think, he's the biggest, being the youngest he probably had the bst guidance, and advice as a young kid when he was boxing, because his brothers were nore experienced, and above all, he seems to have a talent which his brothers don't have. I've seen all Callum Smith's fights since he beat Tobias Webb with lethal body shots in 2 rounds, or most, I might have missed one or two, but I support al the Smiths, Callum is just the only one I rate at the top of his division, but that is not to say the others aren't good fighters, and with Liam, Stephen (I think Paul should retire now, stay in the sport, be a trainer, pundit etc), rather than expecting them to achieve at the level we think Callum will, it is just about them not giving up on trying to win a world title, and they won't, it just has to be against the right opponent, unfortunately, I'm not a gambling man as you know, but if you have a lot of mates over here, I'm sure many would bet you some big £s/ $s, Smith would beat Julian Williams.

You think Smith is the best in his division?, I'd say definitely top 3, but in my opinion, Gilberto Ramirez is the best, man, Mexican boxing is on a high, De La Hoya, Valdez, Nery, Berchelt, Canelo of course.

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That is funny, could be Smith vs Williams 3 times if Liam and Julian do fight for the WBO title.

No it wasn't close, because Canelo clearly won the first 4 rounds, might have won the two close rounds which I edged to Smith subjectively, and then after that, though Smith was having a good 7th, it is of no matter, 3 knockdowns in an as many rounds, no it wasn't close, it was competitive, there is a difference! I don't agree with that, because Charlo had already dropped him, some had him well ahead, most had him ahead, and let's be honest here, it didn't go 5 rounds, and Smith didn't get beat up, he had his moments in every round, in the majority of the rounds, Canelo simply landed more, landed better, controlled the pace, Smith couldn't hurt him, but like I said, he had good spells in every round, and if you watch the highlights, when he had Canelo on th ropes and landed that over hand right, he did great, Smith, made it tough for Canelo, and back to Charlo vs Williams, whether a fighter sets a fighter up with feints, or overpowers them, it is still success, I think Liam Smith did better against Canelo Alvarez than Julian Williams did against Jermall Charlo.

Yes, but is he as durable, in the trenches, can J Williams fight L Smith?, with the early body shots, relentless pressure, work rate, and his own jab, and lateral movement, I think he make it so that those tools from Williams don't matter, I see it as like L Smith vs Thompson, when he won the title, I had Thompson ahead, but Smith broke him down, but like I said, I would egde Smith, and to stop Williams later or beat him by decision, I think J Williams is better than John Thompson, but similar, and Liam Smith could break him down, if this was a 4 round fight we were talking about, maybe even a 6 round fight, I think Williams would beat Smith, but it would be a 12 round fight, Liam Smith is a slow starter, but he is strong late in fights. And Liam Williams is a good fighter, no shame in having problems against him, the first fight was an off night for Smith, so you are better looking at the second fight if you want to form an opinion on Liam Smith as a fighter.

Yeah yeah that's great, no problem with that, but none of this "no way Smith beats J Rock", rubbish, could b a 50/50 fight, it might happen, I would stand by my prediction, I'm sure you would stand by yours, I respect that, but you can't write either fighter off in a match up that interesting and debatable.