Erislandy Lara vs Terrell Gausha Scorecard by mike25


scorecard by MIKE25
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ERISLANDY LARA
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119
TERRELL GAUSHA
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108

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Was Lara better than you expected? Not? Or the same?

I thought he did pretty good in this fight. What about you?

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Yeah it was a solid performance, I thought your home fighter did great, he tried his best, I gave him 3 rounds, as did 2 of the judges, but see it being wider, easily, not closer. I didn't think Lara was quite as sharp, slick as I've seen him in the past, he is 34, and to be honest, I think he might be the weak link in the division, bar Cotto, because I think Lara would beat Cotto, but Charlo and Hurd, I think they'd beat him, and so would Andrade, but if it was any other division apart from a couple of others, he would not be the weak link, far from it in many weight categories, and really understanding how good Lara is, how brilliant a boxer he is, it really shows you just how much credit Canelo deserves for finding a way to just about beat him. If I were Lara, I would move up to 160, and try to get Saunders, he wins that fight easy I think.

I was just thinking the other day, now that Crawford has moved up, Mikey Garcia remains at 135, Broner might be the best 140 lb fighter on the planet, he can win a world title again, for sure!, but he can also, at this stage, win belt-s, plural, but he has to stay on track.

Lara had a typical solid performance. Gausha did a good job of being active somewhat and making it tough for Lara. Even though a lot of punches missed or hit elbows he was still making it tough. I agree I think he beats Cotto but loses to Hurd and Charlo. I don't think he has to worry about Andrade since he moved up to 160. I would like to see Lara at 160 to. How do you think him and Andrade do at 160?

He possibly could be, I think if he dedicates himself he can win another title.

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Fine, I mean, I don't think they are particularly small light middleweights, I think they will both do great, I think they should both steer clear of Canelo and Golovkin, at least for now, but Andrade, after maybe a tougher fight at 160, and then I would love to see him against Jacobs and/or Charlo. What do you think?

He is in control, but in 5 years, he won't be, I hope he doesn't fall off the wagon, and then return when he is past his prime.

I think in a fight or 2 for Andrade, he will be ready for Canelo and Golovkin. There are some better options for next fight for Andrade, like Murata or that Ukrainin fighter Sergiy Derevyanchenko. For Lara, I wouldn't mind seeing a Canelo rematch at 160 at some point, and would like to see Lara fight Golovkin to as well. Now with Andrade at 160 there's so many more matchups to be made at 160.

Very true with all you said.

Did you see the Gassiev fight at all? I only saw highlights but he looked good.

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I agree. I wouldn't think Murata a good tune up option, or even tough preparation for a big fight, he's up there with Charlo I think, maybe even Jacobs, he just dominated, stopped N'Dam, he's unbeaten, great amateur, he hasn't had 15 fights, neither has Lomachenko, Rigondeaux hasn't had many more than that. That's unlikely, but no not a bad option at all, I think Lara is more than deserving of a rematch, he didn't win the first fight, but it was very close. Yeah maybe, but I don't think at 34, the future holds both those fights for him, one maybe, but both is unlikely, I would rather see him against Canelo again to be honest, both good match ups though. Yeah absolutely! Andrade vs Jacobs, who you got in that fight of that were to happen?

No I didn't, but I heard he did great, it is quite hard not to put him in the top 3 in his division now.

Did you see any highlights of Burnett vs Zhakiyanov, it was scrappy, a little of holding, hustle tactics from Zhakiyanov, but it was very interesting, entertaining, great performance from Ryan Burnett, he out boxed Zhakiyanov really, beat him comfortably, but Zhakiyanov tried his best, did well.

He's probably within the top 5 of the middleweight division already. I do think Murata is a good fight down the road though. For Derevyanchenko, it's probably still early for him to get a big fight. I think were not going to see Lara at 154 and I don't think he'll fight Golovkin or Canelo. For GGG I rather see him fight Canelo to. Andrade vs Jacobs is a great matchup, I think I would edge Jacobs. Here's another one Charlo vs Andrade, who takes that?

I saw highlights and the combination set up was great. I can't wait to see him against Dorticos.

I'm going to try and watch that soon.

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Absolutely, I wouldn't mind seeing Murata fight Silly Joe Saunders, take the belt off him and teach him and old fish eyes a good lesson about stealing, or maybe Jacobs, Charlo Andrade, it isn't fair on any of them that that piece of dog mess is at home, probably with the belt shoved down his pants, and these guys, they can't fight for a title, for a stupid reason, when they know they are all much better than him, this is not good for boxing! But yeah Murata is a top middlewight, the division is improving, that's 6 or 7 top 160 lb fighters we are talking about, justa shame the 'champion' isn't one of them. How old is Derevyanchenko?, is he one of those Eastern European guys who had a great amateur career?, but started late? All I know about him is that he is unbeaten, and he just stopped Tureano Johnson in 12 rounds, solid victory. You could be right, Lara has the balls to fight anyone, like his friend Rigondeaux, but at the same time, again, like his friend Rigondeaux, he is more than happy being part of the "who needs him?, club", unlike Spence, Golovkin, Wilder, Mikey Garcia who have been maybe avoided or are still are, these are guys who genuinely want the big fights, are really frustrated about not being in tough fights. Tough one. I don't know, maybe, Jaco-, no, Andra-, no, can't call it!, haha, no but seriously, what a fight that would be!, it is hard to predict Jacobs to lose to anyone who isn't RIGHT up there with Golovkin, given how very close their fight was, that is if he doesn't really go downhill, but Andrade, unbeaten, he just looks outstanding as a fighter, I struggle to imagine him losing, it would take a top fighter, tough fight to call. Again, tough one, in 2018, Andrade, in 2019, maybe still Andrade, just, in 2020, maybe Charlo, certainly Charlo 2023 I think, and I would say in 2022 and 2021, but I would not be surprised if Charlo beat Andrade next year!

Yeah, great match up, 2 of the top 4 I would say!

Not a bad fight for Murata. I don't know if he wins it but it'll be an entertaining one. I definitely think Charlo and Jacobs beat Saunders. I do think Murata is a good fighter he might just need a little bit more time to get big fights. Maybe the same with Dreveychenko. But there are some fighters that have 11 or so fights that are ahead of schedule and can get early title fights. I like the attitude that guys like spence and the others you mention have. They seem eager to fight the best out there and show disappointment when they can't get big fights. I think Andrade vs Charo or Jacobs are too tough to call at the moment. Those can all go either way, hopefully we can see those fights in the future. I think the fight will happen in 2018 in the late half of the year.

What do you think of this for a buildup for Joshua Wilder assuming they win their next fights. In march have Wilder fight Whyte then have Joshua fight Parker as well.

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I would be shocked if he lost to Saunders. No I don't think so, he's '13-1', he's 31, Lomachenko has had 10 fights, Rigondeaux hasn't had 20, I mean, I think fighters, who have had massive amateur careers, and they are 30, they need to take a risk, no time to waste. It kills them that they aren't getting the big fights, I really hope Wilder gets the Joshua fight, Spence gets Thurman and Crawford, Mikey Garcia gets tough fights. They are awesome match ups, they would be great, the new era of middleweight boxing, like Hagler, Hearns, Leonard all over again! If GGG and Canelo have their rematch in May, who do you think wins?

Awesome, I'm a Hearn fan, he's a good guy, good promoter, we have both said so, but I don't agree with him saying, "Joshua gets far more than 50% against Parker and Wilder", and I think saying it, was definitely a mistake. I mean, that is what people think should happen, but I don't think that should be the plan, I think Joshua should take a good 6 months between Takam and his next fight, maybe even 8 months, and Wilder, well, I don't know, I don't think Stiverne will last a round, it will be better than nothing, but not so worthwhile for Wilder, whereas Joshua, he'll get rounds against Takam, I think it will go all 12!, if anyone will need an extra fight, extra rounds, it will be Wilder, and I don't care how biased we are Iver here, Whyte is a level below Parker!, I think the Kiwi would stop him in 6, Whyte has been praised since his 5 minutes of success, 5 minutes of fame against Joshua, when he buzzed him, but since then, he has looked sloppy, scraped past a washed up Chisora, I mean, people think this guy can beat Wilder, laughable. I think Wilder should maybe fight Pulev next year if he is healed, maybe early next year, let's say the big fight is to happen 1 year from now, October 2018, Wilder takes on Pulev in February (assuming Pulev is healed by then), and Joshua fights in April, has an easier fight, like Whyte again, Chisora, Gerald Washington, then they fight in October, I think that is fair, realistic, sensible. I think Wilder beats Joshua, but not if the fight happens in 2020 or later, and Joshua could beat Wilder at any time, of course he could, he has the basics, the fundamentals, the speed, the muscle, youth in his side, he's probably a little bit fresher, he has a better jab, he's quite nimble, I wouldn't be surprised to see him win, not really, but I'm 60% sure, that if the fight happens in 2018-19, Wilder wins.

I think I would be. But yeah sometimes records are deceiving because you can not have a lot of fights as a pro, but have a lot of experience in general. Those matchups you mentioned were awesome, I would also like to see Crawford in the welterweight mix. I think he beats Spence and Thurman who I think are the best 2 at 147. If they rematch in May I'm still going to favor GGG, if it falls later to 2019 then I would maybe favor Canelo.

Yeah, I'm a bug Hearn fan. I think he's a great promoter and he's hilarious. Yeah, I disagree on the splits for Parker and Wilder. I mean Joshua is the bigger draw but he shouldn't get way more then Wilder or Parker. I think 55 45 is fair maybe 60 40 to. I think have Joshua's next fight should be in March or April same with Wilder. I would disagree on Joshua Takam going the distance, I think Joshua stops him late, but yeah he will get rounds Wilder won't. I think it's ridiculous that people think Whyte has a shot against Wilder, he barley beat Chisora. I've also heard some people say that Whyte would beat Joshua in a rematch, which is also ridiculous. I like Whyte but I think people overrate him a lot. I think if the fight happens in 2018 or 2019 Joshua has a good shot of beating Wilder, I still pick him to win but it's close to call. I hope this fight happens sooner rather then later.

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That was my point, Murata has more experience than his 12-1 record suggests, but really, experience is key in boxing, timing, as well, but amount of fights is always something to look at. He will be, he has vacated his belts. I agree, what an American welterweight boxing trio they could be!, what great times for boxing in Nebraska, Texas, and Florida, just below them, I think a notch, a broken down level at most, is Porter and Garcia, I don't think you can put Khan up there with those 5, not now, and Jeff Horn still has a lot to prove, but superfights the top 3 could battle it out in, great for boxing! Fair enough, I just think, if GGG was going to win, it would have been last month, I think before long, Golovkin will have dropped behind Jacobs, Charlo, and Murata as well, he can still give bitch hoe slanders until he's 50 or older, so he can win the WBO belt outright, I just think we've seen the best of Golovkin now.

Absolutely, at the end of the day, he gets results, people should forget about him acting like a poncy businessman, he delivers, he got us Frich vs Groves II, he got us Haye vs Bellew, he got us Joshua vs Klitschko, he would have got us Khan vs Brook if Khan hadn't deliberately spewed it, he tells people what fights he is trying get done, confirmed, he tries, and most of the time, he succeeds, he also wants the best for his fighters, he didn't try to keep Joshua away from Klitschko for too long, didn't throw in the deep end too early. I think 50/50, but I can see why you think those numbers are fairer, it was a mistake for Hearn to say it publicly, but you have to hand it to him, he is an honest man, Haye's verbal abuse was ridiculous, having a dig at him for interrupting fight interviews, well, come on Dave, wake up man, he is the promoter, the public want to know realistically what is next for the fighter, he has every fight to be there for the post fight interviews, Haye is jealous because he is a diva who always craves the spotlight. I think he could beat Wilder in a 2 round fight, haha, but I think Wilder would destroy him, easy soon as he found his rhythm. He's a moron who runs his mouth, he got whooped last time he fought a heavyweight top dog, he'll get whooped again. At the very least, a strong chance, I believe Wilder would beat him on 2018 and I don't care what people say in response, but no idiot can write Joshua off and expect to be taken seriously. Yeah I hope so as well, but you couldn't blame Joshua if he wanted to smoke Wilder out, not saying he will, but it would be smart, not cowardly!, I wouldn't mind seeing Wilder win, then Joshua win, then Wilder retires, more respected than he is now, after 2 classics against AJ, and Joshua goes on to dominate the division for the next 7 years or so!

Yeah there's fighters with more experience with lower records then others, it depends on the fighters background. Like Murata or Lomachenko having 10 fights is more experienced then Canelo at 10 fights. That welterweight trio would be great, you get one more and you get a modern day big 4 just like with Lenord and them. It's so hard ranking Khan because of inactivity, the skill is there but just not active enough. For Horn, you're right he's unproven he needs some better name fights to prove himself. Crawford is his mandatory so he possibly could fight him. For Golovkin I think he has like 1 maybe 2 good years left then he'll decline, It's a shame he couldn't of got an official W on his record. As for Saunders I think any elite middleweight will beat him. I hope that we can still see Golovkin win at a high level.

He gives the fans what we want and can't knock him for that. I'm pretty sure he would've delivered Brook vs Khan but Khan had a lot of high demands. It's a shame that we never got to see it happen. I agree with you on Hearn on the 50 50, me and you probably know a fair split but he shouldn't of said it public. And I agree with post fight interviews, the fans have a right to know what's potentially next. I think Wilder and Joshua would beat Whyte if they fought, I don't know why Whyte is hyped up more than Wilder. I think it would be dumb to write off either fighter in that fight. With two big heavyweights anything could happen. Joshua could dominate and beat Wilder and the other way around. I mean I'm rooting for Joshua but I would be happy if Wilder won, and a little disappointed for Joshua to. Joshua has a very bright future in boxing.

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I wouldn't mind seeing Khan vs Horn. I didn't know that, well, I highly, highly doubt Horn will keep his title, I think he'd maybe get stopped, if not, he's lost very wide, struggle to win 3 rounds. He's 35, so he is declining now, the question is, how slowly. Absolutely, I wasn't really impressed with his performance over a disappointing Monroe. I think if he was going to be Canelo, he would have done it, I think, now, he still has the edge over everybody else, but in terms of being overtaken by Charlo, Jacobs, Murata, the clock is ticking.

Khan deliberately sabotaged it, he didn't want the fight, he maybe would have done, had he had the belt, but the humiliation of being seen as the b-side, he couldn't handle it, that was his problem, not Hearn's. People are idiots, that's why, "windmill Wilder, no technique, only fights bums', shut up, unbeaten, heavyweight world champion, destroyed guys who knocked out Robert Helenius, Eddie Chambers, he's beaten at least 2 former world champions, terrible resume, dear me, yes, never fought great opponents, because Ortiz and Povetkin took drugs, not his fault, and what is to say he wouldn't have sparked them?, and if they were so confident why bitch out and spew your chances with drugs?!!, Whyte, what?, 5 minutes of fame against a careless, cocky AJ, AJ dominated the first round, he had a shaky couple of rounds, then in round 4, he took over again, and Whyte, he wouldn't have beaten the Chisora who fought Klitschko, based on what we saw from his against that Chisora. Absolutely! He's 27, a realist, disciplined, he has talent, 6'6, strong, marketable, he'll have a great career, and I reckon in 15 fights time, he can retire, a proud champion, who had a fantastic career.