Tyrone Nurse vs Jack Catterall Scorecard by Champion97


scorecard by CHAMPION97
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TYRONE NURSE
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111
JACK CATTERALL
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117

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Are you watching the Andrade and Corralles fight tonight?

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No we won't get it over here. I think Corrales might lose against Machado, he came in 4 lbs over the limit, I'm not sold on him as a fighter, I don't think he is anywhere near as good as the other champions, I think Machado will win. Andrade should win against Fox, good that he is keeping busy.

You were spot on about Machado winning. I wasn't really sold on Corrales as a fighter either, I thought he was the weak link of the 130 champs. Lomachenko, Berchelt and Davis all stop him easy. I was happy to see Andrade get the win last night and stay active. I thought the knockdown of Andrade wasn't a good call.

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Yeah, he was behind, but then he pulled the finish out the bag, credit to him. I think so too, but go be fair, it is a strong division in terms of the top 3 being so good, no shame, but yeah I couldn't have seen him coming close to beating any of those 3. I haven't seen the whole fight, but I have seen a highlight video, and he looked solid. I saw that, stupid, Fox didn't react like he had scored a knockdown, Andrade was 100% fine, but more importantly, a punch didn't land, and he slipped, in an obvious way, it is one of those things that is clear to us, but a paid official makes a pig's ear of their job.

Bellew vs Haye II, who you got?

Corralles was doing well until that last round. He must of gassed out or something because he did not look the same as he did in the early rounds. My guess is poor training because of him coming in overweight on weigh in. Good on Machado on pulling off the upset. I know 130 is a loaded division, even outside the big 3 there are some tough fights for him. It looked somewhat like a knockdown at a first glance then looking at the replay it was a clear slip.

I give the edge to Bellew, what about you?

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Yeah well, if so, he has only himself to blame, commitment, dedication, they are attributes. Yeah absolutely, good fighter, I'd like to see him take on Francisco Vargas.

Yeah I'm leaning towards Bellew, nothing I said about Haye before the first fight was flat out wrong, but I exaggerated, he is taking this seriously, when the time comes, I think he will be lighter, he will be ready made whether or not it will be enough, is a separate question, Bellew will be more adapted to the weight next time, he won't have a broken hand, he won't put all his eggs in one basket in a round, gas, he'll be better prepared tactically, this time around, but neither are fresh fighters, 35 and 37, maybe the guy who can work around his age might win, because a fighter who is past his prime, and tries to be the fighter he once was, ends up struggling, that is what Haye did in the first fight, he won't this time I don't think. I think David Haye needs to fight somewhat like Evander Holyfield in this fight, Bellew, well I think taking a leaf out Bernard Hopkins's book, tactically, wouldn't be bad for his chance of winning again.

Very true, maybe a jump in weight might help him if he was that badly conditioned.

Another thing is the achillies injury, he is in his late 30's and came off a bad injury I think something could come up in the middle of the fight like last time possibly. I think for Haye, he needs to fight differently this fight. He can't just rely on one big shot, and be reckless. He needs to fight smarter, in the first fight he was so reckless and relied so much on one big shot. Anthony Joshua said the injury wasn't the fight breaker, the fight was already was in Bellews favor anyway he was boxing smart and I already explained Haye. Do you think it goes the distance, or no?

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Maybe, or a telling off from his trainer, some fighters need to stay on the treadmill, need some tough love from their families, because nothing worth having comes easy, in life we have to make sacrifices, we have to take risks, in boxing, it is hard, the early runs, making weight, camps, the fight itself, financial struggles, it is life, otherwise is boxing, and it is the same time a degree in any job, you go to college or university, you have bills to pay, work to do, travelling, you are away from your family, people who aspire to be a doctor, man, that takes talent, and some serious, serious commitment, but at the end of the day, the harder you work, the more you will make yourself proud. Going off on a tangent, maybe Corrales does need to move up, but 4lbs over the limit, that tells me he might have undertrained.

Absolutely, even as someone who doesn't like Haye, I would hope that doesn't happen again, I don't care how nasty a person is, I don't want to see that happen to any athlete whilst they are competing, but you are right, we have to look at that, that is in my analysis, and so are these factors, age, we all know about Haye's age, but what about Bellew's age, he'll be 35 on fight night, what did the last fight take out of him?, he broke his hand, how brittle is he, what's to say he definitely won't break his hand again? I think the reason why Haye injured himself, was because he was panicking, he was fading, Bellew was not, he was worried, he lost control, composure, threw himself out of what his limitations were, I do doubt he will do that again.

Oh definitely, he did, Bellew has been knocked down several times I think, 3 at the top of my head, but I think there were a few more occasions, Haye knows how concussive a puncher he was, why wouldn't be believe he could flatten Bellew early?, but nevertheless, you are right. I think he was boxing well in rounds 2-5, he was still missing, but the jab was working well, use of suppleness, feinting at angles, but because of what he did in the first round, he had already decreased what he had in the tank, I mean, Bellew made him miss wildly with many in the first session, I think he'll try to nick the first couple this time. Yeah, well to be honest, he's biased, he doesn't like Haye, because he isn't fooled by the BS, and he is Bellew's mate, but he is right, it wasn't, if you watch it, Bellew laughs at him at the end of round 5, Haye was starting to blow a gasket, Bellew sensed it, he was going to take over, and he wasn't 5-0 down, no Knockdowns, point deductions or anything, and in rounds, it was 4-1 at the worst, Haye didn't have the fight in the bag, it is a 12 round fight!, not a 5 round fight! Absolutely, I mean, Bellew took all Haye's punches the first time, Haye took Bellew's well, Bellew doesn't have the same power as he did at cruiserweight, not nearly, still hits hard though, and we know Haye isn't the most durable, but no I think it goes the distance, and Bellew wins an MD, would you like to read my prediction analysis?, maybe you could write one too, if you want.

That's true he probably does have to train harder in the gym. You are right anything you do in life doesn't come easy and you have to earn everything. I think it could be undertraining, or just he couldn't of lost the weight. I think that it was really careless of him to be over by 4 pounds.

I know what you mean, you don't like him but you also don't want him to rupture his achillies. It is a possibility that we have to think of though. That's a similar concern I have with kell Brook and his eyes.

I think it'll go the decision, and David Haye will make it more competitive of a fight, assuming that he doesn't get hurt. He knows how serious this rematch is for him and if he loses that's pretty much it for him. The thing is, in that fight he was more reckless then Bellew. Compared to someone like Joshua is a huge puncher, but is more composed then a Haye, he doesn't rush a knockout. I think it will be interesting fight. Bellew sure did prove me wrong in the first fight. Also I want to write analysises but I don't think I'll be very good. I just write a prediction of the decision and who I think will win.

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When you think about what is at stake, and the time he has had to make sure his weight is down, you see how unprofessional it is, especially for a world champion, I remember when Randy Cabalerro came in 5 over, and he was stripped of his title, only for it to be given to Lee Haskins, that fight was meant to be on the undercard of Cotto vs Canelo.

Yeah it's realism, it could happen, "lightning never strikes twice", is not the way to approach this, Haye has to prepare himself for anything, take no chances regarding his injury tenancies.

Oh yeah well it is impossible to make the case that the injury didn't affect Haye's performance, whether or not it affected the outcome, is a different question, and is really why the rematch is so interesting. He's thinking not only that, but he has to win emphatically, that might be a mistake, you shouldn't run before you can walk in boxing, over-eagerness can backfire. He was, for a few reasons, one, is that he went in there believing Bellew wouldn't go 3 rounds, he promised "a quick, explosive finsih", he told the media he could knock Bellew out with a jab, he didn't respect Bellew, he underestimated him, and then some! No well Joshua is a bigger guy, stronger guy, all round better skilset, he's really what David Haye wishes he was, and tries to make himself out to be, nobody is buying the nice guy act, he told Bellew before the first fight, "your family will be visiting you in hospital, Liverpool fans are fucking retards, you are terrible", he punched him as well, but in the ring, Haye was never consistent, he doesn't have Joshua's durability, I mean, Klitschko dropping Joshua in round 6 back in April, Haye wouldn't have got through that. I think what happened with you prediction, was that you watched the wrong fights at the wrong times, you saw his fights against Chilemba just before the Haye fight, he was terrible by his own standards at light heavyweight, of course it was going to give the impression Bellew would lose early, it was good in the sense that you were honest, you had your own opinion, but you were cool about it, not this rubbish "belyou will get noced owt in 2 rounds he a bum,,,,,,,,,", like many idiots out there. I think you'll be good, fancy words, perfect grammar, long lengths, doesn't really matter, not what it is about, just give your opinion, explain, give some details on why you predict what you predict, if you like, that's it really.

For sure, and the thing is if he knew he couldn't make the weight he shouldn't of taken the fight at that weight.

Exactly.

I think that makes the rematch interesting to. This fight is pretty much it for Haye if he loses and he knows that. He needs to come in with a realistic mindset and to be more composed while fighting. I think he was fighting off emotions and that isn't a good thing to do. He was so confident he was going to ko Bellew he underestimated. He probably thought that since he's been knocked out by Stevenson that he can do it since he's a bigger puncher then Stevenson. When it's all said and done, I think that Joshua will have a better career at heavyweight then Haye had. For me, I thought picking Haye over Bellew was a good pick at first. I questioned Bellews chin before the fight, I also factored in the Stephenson fight in the prediction as well. I never considered any negatives on Haye before the fight and that's where I think I went wrong. I know Bellew was good, he's no bum by any means I just thought Haye had all the advantages. I'll try to write some predictions coming up.

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Yeah, I mean, it doesn't hurt to hire people to give you that kind of professional advice in sports, that way he may know in advance, when is the right time to move up in weight.

Yes, but at the same time, that's no good when he's 4-6 points down, with 2 rounds to go, he might have to pull the trigger at some point. Absolutely, and also, because he hadn't experienced, first hand, the years, 32, 33, 34, 35, he wasn't prepared for his own decline. Course!, he already has, I mean, ok Haye fought a younger Klitschko, but still, look at the difference, and Joshua was 27, Haye was 30, for a heavyweight, 30 isn't old at all, 27 is young. Yeah, again, about the weight, he was drained in that fight I think, certainly nowhere at his best. Fair enough, you weren't alone, far from it. Yeah go for it!

True.

That's also right, if he's down by a lot he does need to go for broke. That's the thing about Bellew that I ignored, he didn't look all that great at 175 and then when he moved up to cruiserweight he had more power. I can't blame myself all that much because it was a popular opinion that Bellew would lose. I think you were the only one picking Bellew to win and that's pretty good.

I'm not arguing here but why do you think Joshua vs Takam goes the distance? I'm just wondering because that is an interesting take.

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Nothing to blame yourself for! That was what a lot of people thought! Not quite, 1/100 probably picked Bellew to win, maybe 2/300, he was a massive underdog, but that didn't convince me he was losing your Haye that night.

Thanks for asking, and arguing isn't a bad thing in this scenario. Takam is so nimble, illusive, he moves his head, his engine is phenomenal, he took Parker's punches so well, he took a lot of massive punches from Povetkin, he'll respect Joshua's power more, I just think he has the durability, combined with the foot speed, knowledge, experience to last the distance, I think he will win 1-3 rounds, but get dropped a couple of times, get hurt, nearly get stopped, but see out the final bell. I think Takam is like Dillian Whyte, only slightly better in most departments, and takes twice as long to really tire, Whyte took Joshua's punches very well for 6 rounds, but when he was fatuiged, Joshua could use that, line him up for that uppercut, but Takam won't tire like that I don't think, if Joshua lands that right uppercut, Takam will probably say goodnight, but I think he will handle the accumulation well, and he will give Joshua reason to make it technical, and I think when fatigue is an issue for Takam, he will have too much natural durability, intelligence for Joshua to get him out of there, I'm 95% sure Joshua will win though, and I would be very surprised if it was close.

Huge underdog, and he managed to pull it off.

It's not. I just didn't want to come off rude by asking. I don't think it will go the distance. He did take Parkers punch well, but I think Joshuas power is better then Parkers. I think Joshua is good at breaking down opponents, and we will see Joshua break Takam down and get a late stoppage. For the Whyte fight, I saw Joshua hurt Whyte a bunch of times in that fight, I thought he could've got him out earlier if he had more experience. I would be shocked if the fight is close to honestly. I think if it does go to a decision it will be very wide.

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I agree, but I don't think there is as much in it as some might assume, and he took those punches really, really well. Could happen. I don't see any reason for a rematch.

Ancajas vs Conan who you got?

Same I don't think there should be a rematch, although if one of Joshua's opponents pull out and Whyte is free I wouldn't mind seeing it. He would be a good replacement option.

I'm leaning toward Ancanjas. What about you?

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It depends in my opinion, on how high the expectations were for the fight, if, shook horror, Wilder had to pull out, forget Whyte, but Parker would be a good replacement, or Tony Bellew (but with a very different relationship with AJ, they are great mates, and Bellew knows he wouldn't beat Joshua), but if it was the other fight, the fight that isn't 50/50, or close to it, Whyte wouldn't be a bad replacement.

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So am I, should be a good fight though. Are you a fan of the Conlans?