Gennady Golovkin vs Saul Alvarez Scorecard by Champion97


scorecard by CHAMPION97
Round
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2
3
4
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6
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Total
GENNADY GOLOVKIN
9
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
9
9
115
SAUL ALVAREZ
10
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
113

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I have my card ready but don't have access to computer. What did you think of the fight?

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I loved it man! Thoroughly enjoyed that fight, best fight of the year so far in my opinion, what about you?

I agree. Even though I felt the 10-2 card in favor of canelo was way off I'm not letting it ruin the fight itself. Fight of the year for me so far. Passed Joshua vs Klitschko for me.

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That's it man, she sucks, before she can't ruin a night if boxing like this! I agree. I see you had it a draw, that's fair to say, it was a close fight in my eyes definitely, I'm not sure why so many people gave Golovkin round 1, it was 2-0 Canelo after 2 rounds, but overall, Golovkin did enough to edge it in my opinion.

I thought a draw was fair. I'm still kind of mad about that one bad scorecard, it's like she came in the fight with her mind already made up. I don't think people would've been as mad if she scored it 115-113 Canelo. It was a very competitive fight that could've went either way. I think Golovkin had a slow start, and towards the end he was able to fight his own fight. I thought round 1 was close but Canelo edged it for me in my opinion. I would agree that Golovkin did enough to edge the fight. I also noticed a lot of boxers saying that GGG got screwed. Lennox Lewis went as far as saying it was just like his first fight with Holyfield.

How do you see a rematch going?

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I genuinely don't know whether or not I agree with that, I don't know if I think it could have gone the other way to be honest, I just feel Golovkin was too dominant in the mid rounds, and Canelo, well in my eyes, and I could be wrong, I think Canelo was brilliant in that fight, but in my eyes, you gave him the benefit of the doubt, I was somewhere in the middle, and those who scored it 116-112 have Golovkin the benefit of the doubt, it just seemed do me that after 10 rounds, because Golovkin, he had won a few clear rounds, I thought at least 2 more than Canelo (might be a little off on that one, I was just enjoying the fight at times rather than being so analytical), Canelo needed a clear round or two in the championship rounds to make a case for himself to win, but those last 2, they were close ones, I thought Canelo snuck them both, but they were close, I could be wrong, but I believe Canelo might have doubted he had won the fight, and maybe he didn't tell the truth, because he 'lacks class'?, is a sore loser?, no, because he was absolutely devastated after giving it his all, putting his heart and soul into the fight, and he just wasn't good enough to win in the end, but Golovkin, that was a confident man after the bell had gone. That's not fair to Canelo, I mean, come on, it was nothing like that robbery, even those who had it 9-3, that was unfair on Canelo, he won at least 4 rounds, I mean, I had it close, no way it was anything like that, even if saying Canelo won was invalid. I think our predictions for this fight were good, I predicted Canelo to start well, Golovkin to dominate the mid rounds, Canelo to come back late. I have to be honest, after 2 rounds, I thought Canelo was running away with it.

Oh man that's tough, well I predicted 8-4 to be out of the question for either fighter, but given that my belief at this current time is that that fight was anything between 8-4 and 6-6 I'm thinking twice about saying Canelo would win a rematch, man that's tough, I think It's just edge Golovkin again, maybe, just, but I think it would be closer, maybe a split decision again, and a fight in which Golovkin is given no more than 7-5 by anybody. What do you think?

I think for sure Golovkin won more clear rounds then Canelo. I will probably watch again and have a better look on the fight. Like you said, it got to good to be analytical and you just wanted to watch. I felt that a lot during this fight. A fight of this magnitude can be easy to get distracted when it gets good. I thought Golovkin won more clear rounds, and the rounds Canelo won could've went either way. I'm not saying all but most were close. I know Canelo didn't come off as a sore loser when he said he won, I get that he put in a lot of hard and to have a competitive fight like that he shouldn't be criticized on think he won. At first I was worried about Golovkin, I thought he was going to take it to. Golovkin really took over the mid rounds and started tiring Canelo out. Golovkin for his age showed great stamina, those body punches looked like they hurt and he just took them like it was nothing. Also I would say he has the best chin and jab in all of boxing.

Did you think if someone score the fight 8-4 was justified for Golovkin. One thing is that I think it's going to be very hard for Golovkin to win a decision against Canelo, we learned that from yesterday. I'm going to be optimistic and hope the judging is better, and if it is I give Golovkin the edge.

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Yeah well, at the end of the day, we are just fans, we are at the very least, intermediate at the very least, and we are knowledgeable, but we're still fans, it isn't our obligation or our profession to score the fight, but it is a hobby, and something we pride ourselves in being good at, if we did score it off the mark, and I think it's highly unlikely, then we can't have been far off the mark, but for Mrs Byrd, it is a different story, she is paid to score the fight well, and she made an absolute hash of it, she pissed on our cornflakes, she was a bad end time a great night of boxing, morons like her terrible for this great sport, and she'd better not think that we will verbally slaughter her less any because she is a woman. I don't agree actually, I think there were only 3 or 4 rounds which could have gone either way, not the hardest fight to score in my opinion, not in terms of amount of tricky rounds to score. I believe I did a good job of predicting this fight, in said, Canelo egdews the first 5, Golovkin has a clear edge in rounds 6-10, dominates at times, Canelo have finishes well, rallies in 11 and 12, I was wrong about knockdowns, I was wrong about both staying GGG by 2, but I predicted 1 bad card (116-110), if you look at my prediction, and the SD part, these are two of the few guys who have never been knocked down in their professional careers. I was wrong about Canelo's early tactics, I didn't think he could move like that, I thought he'd used his weight, muscle, push GGG back, take him out of his element, and GGG, well he did more like what I thought he would, but I thought he'd invest more in the jab early on than he did. By the way, I think Canelo was hurt a couple of times in the fight, recovered well, didn't show it, but at some point I think he will admit that GGG did hurt him, I know you can't put muscle on your chin, but I think Parker of the reason why punches have always seemed to bounce off the head of GGG, and he can take even a Canelo uppercut so well, is because of his very strong neck, I've seen him doing brutal neck exercises before, he was basically lifting his bodyweight with his neck muscles!

Steve Lilis scored it that way, I believe Alex Steedman did too, maybe Barry Jones, not too sure, maybe not, he might have had it 7-5. I can't really accept 8-4 one way, and 7-5 the other, I just believe one of them must be incorrect, I mean, 116-113, I think that is when it gets decisive. Really?, that's cool, I think most might, but GGG vs Canelo II, I think GGG.

That's true. Even though it isn't our obligation to score the fights, but I do think that it is important for us fans to call out a bad score card by a judge. If they don't hear us complain they won't do much, but robberies are still in boxing and have been forever. We shouldn't have judges like Bryd that made their mind up before the fight even started, she didn't even make it look obvious. The fight overall wasn't hard to score for me either. The second time was much easier for me. Your prediction was spot on about the fight, even to the scorecards it was good. It's a shame such a classic fight had to be ruined by one judges awful scorecard. I was surprised with how good Golovkins stamina is for his age, he was hit with some brutal body shots and kept coming forward. My only downside for Golovkin he was a little slow at first finding the range, but once he did he was great. I forgot Golovkin did those neck exercises, that would explain why he has such a good chain.

I'm being optimistic about the judging for a potential rematch. If they are good then I think Golovkin wins. I think when predicting a fight we just assume the judging will be fair, but I think form here on out I might be a little weary of judging for certain fights. I think that in Canelo fights there's always a terrible scorecard, Canelo is one of my favorite fighters this isn't a knock on him since he himself can't control it, it's just something me and probably a ton of other people have noticed.

Rewatching the fight right now.

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I see you had it 116-112, I think Canelo clearly won 3 of the 4 rounds you gave him, 11 was debatable, 1, 2, 12 I thought he definitely won, Golovkin, I think 4, 5, 7, 8, I think 3, 6, 9, 10, 11 could have gone either way, that's going through my mind.

OK here's my scoring method, actually, I'll only detail it if you want me to, because it is a bit long, and it is only my boxing scoring method which I think should be used in boxing to make scorecards fairer, not anything which is officially out there or likely to be used by maby if any professional judges.

There were some things I noticed in the fight that Canelo was doing. Like that move to the right he would do to avoid GGG's shots, he wouldn't counter at all. People are saying Canelo won because he was making GGG miss a lot and landed some nice punches. Paulie made a good point that yes he did make Golovkin miss but he wasn't countering him a lot. I thought that Canelo had good starts then Golovkin would dominate for the rest of the rounds.

You can. To add about professional scoring, I think this fight will be a fight that will lead to changes to getting better judges.

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Can't believe how well De La Hoya boxed! Cabalerro got absolutely outclassed!

I know he looked great, I expected that fight to be competitive. Good on De La Hoya.