Riddick Bowe vs. Larry Donald

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Riddick Bowe vs. Larry Donald
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Date: 
Saturday, December 3, 1994
Location: 
Las Vegas, NV
Rounds Scheduled: 
12
Contracted Weight: 
Heavyweight
Referee: 
Mills Lane

Official Judging
Dalby Shirley 120 - 108
Art Lurie 118 - 109
Bill Graham 118 - 110

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Riddick Bowe faces Larry Donald in a bout expected to bring fireworks after Bowe lands a combination on Donald at a press conference five days before the fight.




Averaged Fan Card:

round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Riddick Bowe
                                                                    
10
10
10
10
9.50
9.50
10
10
10
10
10
10
Larry Donald
                                                                    
9
9
9
9
9.50
9.50
9
9
9
9
9
9


Fan Cards: Riddick Bowe vs. Larry Donald


scorecard by BOXING KNOWLEDGE
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
RIDDICK BOWE
10
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
118
LARRY DONALD
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
110


scorecard by RORSCHACH
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
RIDDICK BOWE
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
120
LARRY DONALD
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
108


Comments

rorschach's picture

Donald floated like a butterfly but forgot the sting like a bee part, which is pretty important. And Boxing Knowledge is a huge faggot who loves to suck cock.

Champion97's picture

Could that be the last one of those buddy?

rorschach's picture

I'll quit when the nutcase Boxing Knowledge quits. He has been carrying on in the request thread for days. He's a nut, who has been threatening me and using the same language for days, all because I asked him which fight he was referring too. No one here who runs the place seems to care or say anything to him about it, so why shouldn't I be able to do the same. I tried to ignore him and let his ravings die but they're not, he out of the blue made another threat and used the same word last night completely unprovoked, just like this whole stupid ordeal was completely unprovoked. He's a fucking psychotic moron that literally gets set off when you're not even conversing with him. I literally did nothing to start any of this stupidity, but I'm tired of reading his insults just whenever it suits him, so turn about is fair play. I've been here a hell of a lot longer than that idiot, and I'm not going anywhere, but I'm also not gonna just let him keep insulting and threatening me either. If nothing can be done about his behavior by the people that run this site, then whatever but I'm not just gonna take it and not be able to respond. The whole thing is ridiculous, I never have a problem with anyone here, but when this guy gets set off for no reason. I'm not taking it quietly any longer.

Champion97's picture

Well it's been hours since you last spoke. I think that was a misunderstanding, BK wasn't upset about you asking for a fight which he believed was already on here, I think he disagrees with some of your scorecards, I'm no expert myself on scoring fights really, I try, but you two are both better scorers than me.

I don't think Mario Roberts or Zoe will take action if there is no complaint, I think that is the difference, but I have been discussing boxing with Boxing Knowledge for a long time, and he is very good to talk to as long as you keep on the right side of him, I think he is very knowledgeable about the sport. To be fair that is a good question, but to me, I think we should try to keep the site as clean as possible, but look, I get it, I have seen so many of your comments, I know that this is not like you, but I just don't think you insulting BK will benefit anyone or anything.

I think his comments are because for some reason he doesn't believe that you respect the sport he loves, but listen, I know you love this sport, and I think if you try to meet him halfway and talk to him about the conflict rather than ignore him (I see why you thought that to be sensible), then this can be resolved.

Well my advice is that you try to reaosn with him, because I think he is a cool guy, that's all I can say, but look, I can't make anyone do anything, nor would I try to.

Maybe just start a conversation about boxing with him, and tell him that you care about boxing and this webiste as he does, and you will see a very different side to Boxing Knowledge, I like Boxing Knowledge, but I like you too man, and I think it is a shame to see this conflict escalate.

rorschach's picture

First off I could care less what he thinks about my scorecards, I think he is by far the worst scorer at this site but I don't say anything. Secondly I behaved like a normal person. I did nothing to set this moron off,come on Champ this is not the first time this guy has flown off the handle for no reason. As a matter of fact this is the second time you have come to me, not him. but me and asked me to cool it, when this motherfucker keeps attacking me completely unprovoked. I mean this is the damn internet, how in gods name is what he thinks about how I feel about something when he don't no me from Adam okay. For crying out loud this is nuts, and you think I should reason with him?? What the hell is unreasonable about asking a question because I wasn't sure what fight he was talking about? Because that is literally what set this moron off like 3 days ago. Last night, it was because he got mad that you asked what state I lived in and I said Illinois, so he went on to tell me not only was I lying about what state I lived in but was a faggot and threatened me again...Because of a friendly conversation you and I were having, now does that seem like someone who is stable? How do you expect to try to and reason with him, when simply answering a question SOMEONE ELSE ASKED earns being called a faggot and threats of violence. I mean shit I have been watching boxing since Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler were huge over 30 years now. Hell Alexis Arguello is my all time Fav and he fought in the 70's and 80's, I always watching fights even at work like right now, how can someone say I don't love the sport as much time as I spend here. Why would I be doing this and putting up with his shit otherwise?

Come on Champ this is the second time he has been set off for me posting in the request thread, why not tell him to cool it, you came to me and asked me to stop the first time too, and I didn't do anything to him or anyone else that time either? His problem with me is my name is above his on the all time judges list, just like it was before he showed up, and started being pyscho towards me if he seen my posting in the forum.

He keeps his shit up I'm going to reciprocate it's as simple as that, if you want to placate to him be my guest, but I wont. But I'm done avoiding talking with people because Boxing Knowledge might have a episode, which is what I've been doing. I'm a civil person, but I wont be talked down to like a dog, fuck that motherfucker.

Champion97's picture

Well that's fair, I personally think he is the best scorer on the site, but like I said, you're both better scorers than me so who am I to judge?

No I know, definitely not to him, I mean, could you have made a comment about one of the fighters which upset him? I'm not saying you did I'm just wondering why he dislikes you so much, but look, like I said, I'm not saying you did, and I know you didn't do anything to start any trouble. I know he has sent you a lot of messages over a period of months, and I know they have contained aggression and strong language, I don't think that is right and I understand your annoyance.

Ok, well, in response to that, I don't want you to think I am someone who is sucking up to Boxing Knowledge, yes, I look up to him as a scorer, and I respect anyone who can live life in the most tough City in the USA (South Chicago is the toughest right? Maybe followed by Brooklyn?) and have high ability in all forms of fighting and combat sports, but, as a friend, I told him to take his address out of that comment which is why you didn't see it (I trust you wouldn't have visited the address had you seen it), and if you think I'm being unfair, I'll tell you, that isn't right, it would be unnecessary trouble to send you a link because I can't remember where I posted the comment, but I told him recently that I thought he was being unreasonable, and his language wasn't necessary, which is closer to criticism than I gave you.

I think he has just formed an opinion based on your scorecards and comments, and by the way, you can always defend yourself, like you did with Breazeale's latest win, and it will turn into a discussion, there have also been periods of time when he has sent you messages, and been cool with you, but to be fair, 95% of his messages towards you haven't been praise, but rather strong criticism to put it lightly.

I don't think he is going to send many more messages, but if he does, just reply, and try to reason with him, well, that's my advice, but look, I asked you earlier not to say what you said again, because I know that it will only lead to more aggression, more arguments, but I'm not lecturing you, to be lectured by a currently unemployed 19 year old when you are a middle income 40 year old man with family, is an insult, I understand, so I'm not lecturing you pal, I just didn't think you posting those commenst earlier were necessary, but like I said, I understand, my point is, this discussion has moved on from me telling you not to say that, this is now about your conflict with Boxing Knowledge.

I never said you were unreasonable, you weren't, it is annoying when people request fights that are already there because it wastes my time, like we know, you didn't do that. I don't think that is what set him off.

Yeah I know, he thinks you are British, but yeah, I know, I don't buy him being able to tell where you are from hust by the way you talk, you said "boatlad of money", "bucks", in the past, "we hated the Prince over here", these are not things Brits say, and when I was staying up to see a fight live, at 4:00 am, you were also commenting on Jack Johnson fights, and on other mornings for me, I've seen 6 hour old commenst from you, so you must be nocturnal if you live in the UK, I have know idea about Illinois lingo, but you say you live in Illinois, I believe you, why not?, and like I said, I think the USA is cool and want to live there one day, always enjoy talking about it. I thino he is stable, I think for some reason he doesn't believe what you say, and has anger towards you for a scorecard related reason.

Maybe wait until you haven't spoken in a while, forget your past beef, and ask him a question about what he thinks of an upcoming fight, but if you don't want to try to reason with him, you don't want to be his friend, I respect that. I know you are a boxing fanatic!

Like I said, I have done. I only told you to cut down on the bad language once didn't I? Oh you mean about "bullshit decision", ah just ignore that, I posted that years ago, I was a kid, just forget that, I did apologise.

I know, I'm sorry about any upset being caused, and I don't want you to feel as if you are being treated unfairly.

Ok, but, and I'm just being honest here, there is a difference between directly responding to him and standing upmfkr yourself, and just going around EOTR sayimg stuff about him, and this is for your benefit as much as his, because when you do the second of those two things, it makes you look bad.

Is it? Because I have asked you a lot of questions on pages and you hage not responded, and hey you don't have to, but it is good to have a boxing discussion, did you not reply to avoid aggro with BK?

rorschach's picture

That's fair, I think he's a loon but as long as he keeps my name out of his mouth I'm willing to drop it. No I would not drive 3 hours to Chicago to engage in a fight with a psycho, because he doesn't like how I in particular score fights, that stupid. I have never seen someone score so many fights 120-108 in my life, and he has a problem with my scoring, it seems like he gives every round to which ever fighter he prefers, but that's his business. I don't bring it up, their are plenty of fights through the 60's, 70's, 80's & 90's vaults where his cards were the most extreme of anyone else that scored, which leads me to believe he just fills out the card for his fav in the fight to win. But again, who cares so I don't say anything because it's none of my fucking business.

Another thing I don't believe for a second he's some sort of virtuoso fighting expert, I believe he's a troll. I boxed for 6 years and took Taekwondo for 7 in my younger days, but you don't see me singing my praises to complete strangers on the internet. I've lived in Illinois for 38 years of my life, spending the other 2 in Georgia and Arizona, I have visited Ireland & England for a couple weeks back in 01' during St. Paddy's week, but that's the extent of my Britishness lol.

Your're right, I didn't reply to you because I didn't want to set that raving idiot off, and fill two pages in the forum of nothing insults and internet tough talk. It's childish and I'm not here to make empty threats to people that are here just to enjoy their selves like myself. There always has to be one billybadass in the bunch who has to tell everyone how tough he is, I just don't want to spend my time on here dealing with that person. It's not my problem that he's formed some idea of me in his head (based of never meeting or really talking to me really) that's his own delusion. But I think it all comes down to I am ahead of him on the all time board and it pisses him off, but I say oh well get over it and quit acting like a teenage girl that gets her phone taken away.

I'm not very articulate, that is true. I'm not good at writing down what I'm thinking which is also why I don't respond all the time. Sometimes I simply don't think what I have to say will look good enough to take the time to do it. Usually a sentence or two is how I reply, so when you go into great detail with your awesome write-ups I feel it would look stupid to reply every time with a sentence or 2 after you put all that time and work into your question or answer.

I'm here to get along with everyone and enjoy scoring fights, there is nowhere else on the internet to do it from what I've found. I've got a huge plastic bin full of spiral notebooks filled with old and newer fights I have scored over the years. So it's nice to be able to add a lot of them on screen.

In the future I will try to respond to any question you might have, but the notification system here isn't great so there is really no way of knowing when a post made is for you or not haha.

Champion97's picture

If there is aby more conflict between you two, I'm staying out of it, I like you both. Haha, and to be honest, you shoudln't either, if I'm lucky enough to enough to have a family of my own in two decades, I wouldn't risk my life for a pissy party fight'. I'm not sure what it is about fights you score he doesn't like, I think maybe it is the amounts you score, he thinks you do it for the points, I'm not suggesting you do, I think he works his mind very hard to always score the fights correctly, and it frustrates him of he thinks (not saying you do this), just does it for the points. He has a lot, and I mean a lot of people who look up to him as a scorer on the Internet, I won't say anything bad about his scorecards. I think BK wants everyone to learn how to score fights well, and when most on this site just do it for fun, you see why this causes disagreements, I've told him, he's best setting up his own site, and having judges on there who want to listen and learn, I'd be on that forum, but not everyone here would.

Ok, I know it seems farfetched, but I do believe what he says, 100%, I wouldn't tell you to mess with him, someone who is capable in every combat sport, is dangerous, he is probably the kind of guy you want on your side. Cool, did you fight?, I boxed for 4 years, from the age of 13-17, I trained hard, sparred, on all but one occasion, sparred big guys, but never got a licence to fight. That's very interesting! Arizona looks like a very cool state to me. Haha, I hadn't quite started school!

I thought you were just ignoring my messgaes, which is fair enough. And that is the key in all this, you are here to enjoy yourself, Boxing Knowledge is here to do that but also go to extreme lengths to score fights 100% accurately, and it sets him off when he thinks others aren't, but I think his anger towards you is that he doesn't believe you are even watching the fights but have points than him, but look, I know that was because you had the scores recorded before I added them. I'm not criticising, not in the slightest!, I'm just trying to give you a better understanding on why Boxing Knowledge doesn't like you.

Hey, it's your choice, but I get that, but I still submit, because I like analysing fights and I want to record my opinion well worded or not. You would not look stupid! You watched fights live many years before I was born. Also, I have too much time at the moment, I'm a mentally troubled guy with currently, no job, and I won't get back on my feet until I'm better, you have a job, you're providing for your family, that if far more important, you not writing well might be just you being tired from your labours.

Yes and it was good for me to work hard adding all those fights, and see your comments and scorecards.

Ok, cool, look forward to talking to you about boxing in the future.

Do you watch the Big Bang Theory by any chance?

rorschach's picture

I've seen it on numerous occasions but don't really watch it, more of a Park's and Rec fan, don't really watch sitcoms anymore. Pretty much only watch Boxing, Hockey, and 1 hour drama/fantasy type shows like House of Cards, Walking Dead and Game of Thrones. Sorry to hear about your troubles, your a smart young man you'll bounce back that I have confidence in. I guess I'll start pointing out to you his cards that are way to in favor of the winner compared to everyone else that scores. You can believe him if you want, but I can tell you from my time in martial arts and boxing the whole point to learn them is for self-defense only and to learn self-control. Not to tell everyone how tough you are while threatening other people you've never met on the internet. He doesn't have the temperament and seems like patience it takes to put that much study into something like martial arts that takes so long to refine. I can tell you first hand my Taekwando instructor Mr. Wynd would not tolerate a temper like his, regardless of his justifications. The arts, even boxing outside of sport is for self-defense only, not to threaten people with. As for why he dislikes me I honestly don't care as I don't want to associate with him in a friendly way or any other. He leaves me alone I leave him alone, he fucks with me I'm gonna fuck with him back plain and simple.

Champion97's picture

I've seen Walking Dead, but I don't really watch it. The only sports I follow are football (soccor to you) and boxing. Do you still participate in any sports?

Thank you I appreciate that very much. I'm trying, that's all I can do.

Ok, from now on I will stay out of your fights, I've given my take, now I will let it go, my opinion on both of you has not changed, but I won't try to change your opinion.