Moruti Mthalane vs Muhammad Waseem

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Moruti Mthalane vs Muhammad Waseem
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Date: 
Sunday, July 15, 2018
Location: 
Axiata Arena, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Rounds Scheduled: 
12
Contracted Weight: 
112
Titles at Stake: 
IBF Flyweight World Title

Official Judging
Samuel Conde Lopez 114 - 113
Silvestre Abainza 114 - 113
Glenn Feldman 116 - 110

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round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Moruti Mthalane
                                                                    
10
10
10
9.25
9
9
10
9
9.75
10
8
10
Muhammad Waseem
                                                                    
9
9
9
9.75
10
10
9
10
9.25
9
10
9


Fan Cards: Moruti Mthalane vs Muhammad Waseem


scorecard by MATCHROOM
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
MORUTI MTHALANE
10
10
10
10
9
9
10
9
9
10
8
10
114
MUHAMMAD WASEEM
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
10
10
9
10
9
113


scorecard by CHAMPION97
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
MORUTI MTHALANE
10
10
10
9
9
9
10
9
10
10
8
10
114
MUHAMMAD WASEEM
9
9
9
10
10
10
9
10
9
9
10
9
113


scorecard by BOXING KNOWLEDGE
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
MORUTI MTHALANE
10
10
10
9
9
9
10
9
10
10
8
10
114
MUHAMMAD WASEEM
9
9
9
10
10
10
9
10
9
9
10
9
113


scorecard by GOLD
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
MORUTI MTHALANE
10
10
10
9
9
9
10
9
10
10
8
10
114
MUHAMMAD WASEEM
9
9
9
10
10
10
9
10
9
9
10
9
113


Comments

Champion97's picture

Prediction,

I like this fight, interesting one.

Moruti Mthalane is underrated, he has had a great career, his record is 35-2, he has been a world champion, he has beaten Zolani Tete, John Riel Casimero, he has fought Nonito Donaire, and a prime Donaire. Mthalane is a very experienced fighter.

Muhammad Waseem is a good fighter, he was a very good amateur, and as a professional, he doesn't have a lot of experience, he has a bit to learn, only 8-0, but so far, so good, he has been a professional for 2-3 years, and he has been 12 rounds, had silver title fights, so he should have learned a lot from 8 fights.

This is a very interesting fight.

Waseem has the age advantage, he has 5 years on Mthalane, and he must be the fresher fighter, he seems to have had the more and better amateur experience. Waseem has a very slight height advantage. Wassem might be the naturally bigger fighter of the two, Mthalane is a career 112 lb fighter, all his fights, except one of them, which was early, have been at this weight, but Waseem, has fought at 118 in his last two fights, small fights, but still fights, and before that, he fought at super bantam, in his first 3 fights, he fought at 115 and 118, won a South Korean title on his debut, at bantamweight. Assuming Waseem makes the weight fine, rehydrates, I think he has a size advantage, because he has experience fighting 2 weight categories above, which means size wise, he has fought bigger fighters than Mthalane, whereas Mthalane, no experience fighting above 112 for 17 years, and only the once, at 115, never above that weight.

Mthalane has much more experience than Waseem, even if Waseem has had 3 title fights, adapted to the 12 rounds, had a good amateur career, experience is still very much on Mthalane's side, with 37 fights, over 200 rounds, and right in between 15 and 20 years of experience as a pro, compared to 8 fights, under 50 rounds, and not even 3 years as a pro, for Waseem, and also, it isn't all about Waseem not having a chance to get the experience Mthalane had because he is too young, Waseem is 30, when Mthalane was 29, he was a world champion, had over 10 years pro experience, and 31 fights. Waseem may have had a good first 8 fights, wasted no time, fought good opponents, but he still hasn't mixed it at and gained experience at the level Mthalane has experience at, Waseem, fighting good fighters, or at least 1, maybe 2, but I don't think they were as good, probably not with the experience of Donaire, Tete, Casimero, who Mthalane has been in against.

I don't think there is that much of an activity advantage, neither fighter has gone past 4 rounds since before 2017, but there was no layoff, because both fighters had 3 small, non-title fights last year, no fights this year, but last year, 3 fights, not bad, but they were small fights, and they were all over in 4 rounds at the most.
Mthalane was inactive for all of 2016, hasn't been even 6 rounds since 2015, he went 8-9 rounds late in the year, but that was all, he was inactive for 14 months between that fight and the previous one, late in 2014, the last time he went 12 rounds.
Wassem hasn't been a full 3 rounds since 2016, and Mthalane went into round 4 last year.
Waseem had a good, busy, but constructive 2016, so he has been more active than Mthalane in the last 3 years, much more, but if there is any ring rust for Waseem, not being challenged enough not to stop his opponent later than round 3, for a year and a half, then he won't be able to lose that ring rust and maybe faulty rhythm as well as Mthalane, because Mthalane has so much more experience, because it comes back more quickly to an experienced fighter.

Both these guys seem to be punchers.
Mthalane is the more proven puncher, he stopped Tete, he stopped Casimero, he has proven his power at a high level, and he has 24 KOs in 35 wins, he can punch, that is clear, and when you can punch, when you have power, you are still dangerous even as a 35 year old flyweight.
Waseem has stopped 6, has a 75% stoppage ratio, good, looks better than Mthalane's stoppage ratio, 65%, but it doesn't mean or strongly suggest he hits harder, it doesn't suggest otherwise, because we haven't seen Waseem go 3 or 4 fights without a stoppage, we haven't seen him box well but fail to really inflcit damage and come close to stopping limited opponents, but we also don't know that he will sustain being able to stop guys, maintain his power as he moves up through the levels, faces more durable and defensive opponents, and at which time, he may or may not prove to have the power of, get the amount of stoppages Mthalane has gotten in his career.

This is the ultimate test for Waseem I think, it is a massive step up, we won't know if as a pro, he is a really good world level fighter until he fights Mthalane. If Waseem wins this, then that is some victory, he proves himself as a good world level fighter, wins a wodld title, learns, gains really good experience, but will be actually manage to beat a hard hitting world level veteran like Mthalane? We will find out on fight night.
Mthalane doesn't have anything to lose, but I'm sure he is very confident he can win, with his experience, we'll see what he has left, you can't write him off.

I think the fight will be very interesting, competitive, both will be hurt, Waseem will start well, Mthalane, in rounds 3-7, might really come into it, give Waseem a lot of problems, but I think in the end, the younger fresher fighter, who's time this is, will have the beating of the fighter who's already had his career. I think Mthalane still has desire, but I think he will find out Waseem wants the win slightly more, and when they have both done well, really put a shift in, in the late stages, I think Waseem will come on strong.

My prediction is Waseem by late stoppage.

I'm 65, maybe 70% sure Waseem wins this, but I wouldn't be shocked if Mthalane won.

Champion97's picture

Awesome fight, work rate from both guys was high, really great effort from both fighters, just what you want to see in a battle for a vacant world title. I thought it was very close, I had it all square after 11, but I thought Mthalane did enough to take the last round, and just about swing it in his favour. Mthalane is a true African fighter, 35 years old at at 112, fights like he is a good 5 years younger, not a lot of flyweights could have so much left in the tank at 35, and of course, with Mthalane's general fitness being great, dedication, probably a gym rat, he was able to work at that pace in round 1, and round 12. Waseem was younger, fresher, bigger, the timing suited him, and he did come close to winning, but I think at 30, this was his best chance, if you ever going to beat a guy at the level Mthalane, beat him when he is past his prime, but in this fight, maybe Waseem, just found out a little bit, maybe in the end, not quite good enough, nearly won, but it just seemed about experience, and levels a little bit maybe, and Mthalane was the better fighter, deserved to win.

Based on the fact that he dropped Mthalane, first loss, only lost by 1 point on two cards, Waseem can fight for a world title again, but if he can't beat a 35 year old who has been out of world title competition for a while, then at 30, when he is definitely as good as he is ever going to be, will he ever win a world title?

Mthalane should retire soon, but he could have another 2 meaningful fights, a unification would be great to see.

Matchroom's picture

Good fight, the right man won.