Jose Carlos Ramirez vs Viktor Postol

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Jose Carlos Ramirez vs Viktor Postol
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3.8
Average: 3.8 (10 votes)

Date: 
Saturday, August 29, 2020
Location: 
The Bubble, MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
Rounds Scheduled: 
12
Contracted Weight: 
140
Titles at Stake: 
WBC (Ramirez's 4th defence), WBO (Ramirez's 1st defence) Light Welterweight World Titles
Referee: 
Russell Mora

Official Judging
Dave Moretti 114 - 114
Tim Cheatham 115 - 113
Steve Weisfeld 116 - 112

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Jose Carlos Ramirez

Viktor Postol






Averaged Fan Card:

round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Jose Carlos Ramirez
                                                                    
9.67
9.14
9.21
9.53
9
9.85
10
10
9.53
9.39
9.67
9.39
Viktor Postol
                                                                    
9.32
9.89
9.78
9.46
10
9.14
9
9
9.46
9.60
9.32
9.60


Fan Cards: Jose Carlos Ramirez vs Viktor Postol


scorecard by POWERPUNCHER999
Round
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2
3
4
5
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7
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12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
10
9
113
VIKTOR POSTOL
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
9
10
115


scorecard by JAROD KILLIAN
Round
1
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3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
115
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
113


scorecard by THE_SUN_ARCANA
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
10
9
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
116
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
9
10
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
112


scorecard by MAGIC MAN
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
115
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
113


scorecard by CHAMPION97
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
114
VIKTOR POSTOL
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
114


scorecard by GUY INCOGNITO
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
111
VIKTOR POSTOL
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
117


scorecard by DIEGOYEYE
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
9
115
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
9
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
10
113


scorecard by DIEGOYEYE
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
9
115
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
9
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
10
113


scorecard by CHRIS M95
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
115
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
113


scorecard by GOOSU
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
9
113
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
9
10
10
9
9
10
10
9
10
115


scorecard by SONNY
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
116
VIKTOR POSTOL
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
112


scorecard by EASYEDDIE10
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
112
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
116


scorecard by BIGHEAD384
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
113
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
115


scorecard by MIKE25
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
114
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
114


scorecard by WIXON
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
10
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
116
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
9
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
112


scorecard by VC1088
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
9
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
9
10
115
VIKTOR POSTOL
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
113


scorecard by NF82
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
113
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
115


scorecard by FLOYD TOUGH COMPETITOR MAYWEATHER
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
114
VIKTOR POSTOL
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
114


scorecard by DEANISBLIND
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
114
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
114


scorecard by LEO MASTER
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
9
114
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
10
114


scorecard by MINIMAXBOXING
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
114
VIKTOR POSTOL
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
114


scorecard by MBUCK
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
10
9
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
9
115
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
10
114


scorecard by WILLIAMBOXING
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
117
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
111


scorecard by BEAUNUITMEM
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
115
VIKTOR POSTOL
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
113


scorecard by ADAMJO260
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
9
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
9
114
VIKTOR POSTOL
10
10
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
10
114


scorecard by GOLD
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
10
10
9
114
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
10
9
10
10
9
9
10
9
9
10
114


scorecard by AJ KNIGHT
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
118
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
10
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
110


scorecard by METALHEAD123
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
JOSE CARLOS RAMIREZ
10
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
9
114
VIKTOR POSTOL
9
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
10
10
9
10
114


Comments

Champion97's picture

Champion97

Fri, 2020-01-10 19:21

Prediction,

I think Ramirez is improving with every fight, it was a great performance from him against Hooker, and he unified. The fight we all want to see is Ramirez vs Taylor for all 4 belts, Taylor just signed with Top Rank, the fight happening this year is possible, but Ramirez won't overlook Postol, this isn't a tune up. Postol is old, I think he will inevitably be worse than he was against Taylor, but I don't think he will be much worse, I don't think he is shot, and he can still compete at world level.

Postol is a solid Eastern European fighter, has the high guard, does the basics well, he isn't fast, but he can put combinations together, uses the ring, can control the range with his jab, I think style wise, he is similar to Golovkin, he doesn't have anywhere near the power of Golovkin, or the ability to break down an opponent, but I think there is a similarity. Ramirez doesn't have top level power, but he hits fairly hard, is a great pressure fighter, great inside fighter, has high volume, he takes time to find his range, isn't the best outside fighter, but he breaks his opponent down, is patient, and in his last fight, he got a great stoppage.

I think this will be fairly similar to the Imam fight for Ramirez, Postol will use the ring, out work Ramirez when Ramirez isn't in range to throw shots, Ramirez's head movement has improved since the Imam fight, I think he will do a better job of slipping the 1, 2, and Postol is slower than Imam, but Postol has better variety, is a better combination puncher, so I think as he cuts the distance, he will get hit at mid range with hooks and uppercuts, but I don't think Postol can hurt him, and I think even when Ramirez takes shots, and loses rounds, he will be making Postol work, and he will have more success as he gradually closes the distance.

I don't think Postol can sustain the movement and punch output for more than 8 rounds, his legs will let him down at 35, and Ramirez will take over the fight in the mid-late rounds. I think when Postol's movement has slowed or even stopped, and he doesn't have the same speed or weight behind his jab, it will be Ramirez's fight to lose, I think Ramirez will land clean, to head and body, in high volume, break Postol down, and stop him late.

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Jarod Killian

Wed, 2020-08-19 16:27

If Crawford and Taylor couldn't do it (both KO ratio 75%) then Ramirez ain't gonna do it (KO ratio 68%). Jose Carlos Ramirez via UD.

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Champion97

Wed, 2020-08-19 17:14

KO ratio doesn't guarantee anything, plenty of fighters hit harder than their KO ratio suggests, I'm not saying Ramirez hits harder than Taylor and Crawford, but it's not just about power, and Ramirez is a very aggressive fighter, breaks down his opponent. Postol is older and has more miles, Taylor and Crawford both put him down.

vc1088

Wed, 2020-08-26 03:49

Yes, and Crawford was also on his on the back foot picking Postol apart for the entire fight as well. Bringing up the KO ratio for this was a little weird on his part.

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Champion97

Wed, 2020-08-26 04:19

That's a good point, Crawford wasn't aggressive against Postol, kept it technical, and Ramirez is a better pressure fighter, has a higher output breaks guys down, he'll never have the overall skill level or ring IQ of a Crawford, and I think he'll take a lot more shots from Postol than Crawford did, Postol will have more success against Ramirez while he's in there, but I don't think he can survive 12 rounds. Taylor vs Ramirez is the fight at 140, it's a 50/50 fight, I think Ramirez has been written off in the UK, Taylor underestimates him.

vc1088

Wed, 2020-08-26 17:01

I think it's safe to say Ramirez will not be fighting off the back foot against Postol.

Taylor vs Ramirez would be an awesome fight. A fight for undisputed at the weight class with the two best boxers in the division. I don't know who I would pick in that fight.

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Jarod Killian

Sun, 2020-08-30 07:07

It is a good indicator though. It doesn’t always hold true but more often than not it does.

vc1088

Sun, 2020-08-30 11:38

It can be at times. In this particular situation I don't think it was though.

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Jarod Killian

Sun, 2020-08-30 16:10

Agree to disagree then

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Jarod Killian

Sun, 2020-08-30 16:10

Agree to disagree then

vc1088

Sun, 2020-08-30 19:23

Fair enough.

AJ Knight

Sat, 2020-08-29 17:42

I think Ramirez is one of the most exciting fighters to watch right now. The way he fights reminds me a bit of Arturo Gatti (in the sense that he throws a TON of punches), but with far better defense.

This fight is going to be amazing.

goosu

Sun, 2020-08-30 18:59

You might want to rewatch the fight.

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Chris M95

Wed, 2020-09-02 06:15

rd 1 cpompetitive imo rds 9,10,12 swing

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Guy Incognito

Tue, 2020-09-01 23:23

Viktor Postol dominated the start and finish, but Ramirez got the hometown decision. Disgraceful robbery.

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Gold

Wed, 2020-09-02 04:06

How was it a robbery when there weren't 7 clear rounds to either fighter?

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Metalhead123

Wed, 2020-09-02 06:36

Robbery is a strong word to use to describe this fight. At most, the outcome was slightly disagreeable, but I don’t think Ramirez was undeserving of the win.

vc1088

Wed, 2020-09-02 09:11

No it wasnt

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Guy Incognito

Thu, 2020-09-03 03:03

Yes it was.

vc1088

Thu, 2020-09-03 11:24

Nope

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Guy Incognito

Thu, 2020-09-03 16:56

Yep

vc1088

Fri, 2020-09-04 04:07

No

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Guy Incognito

Fri, 2020-09-04 06:03

Yes

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Champion97

Fri, 2020-09-04 06:14

vc1088 He's still going, I strongly advise you don't respond by saying no, you're giving the fool what he wants, if you want to respond, make it as boxing relted as possible. The shortest discussions I've ever had with Guy Incognito have been about boxing, the longest have been childish arguments, as you can see, he'll do this kid's stuff, 'yep, nope, yep, nope', all day, but I challenged him to write a boxing analysis, and he didn't respond.

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Guy Incognito

Fri, 2020-09-04 20:57

Champion97: You are not stupid

Also Champion97: You're giving the fool what he wants

And when did you challenge me to write a boxing analysis?

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Champion97

Sat, 2020-09-05 01:04

I didn't say you weren't stupid, I said the misinterpretation didn't make you stupid.

Yesterday you idiot, typical that you're happy to continue this nonsense but anything about boxing is dismissed.

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Guy Incognito

Sun, 2020-09-06 04:55

Champion97: I didn't say you weren't stupid

Also Champion97 in the very same comment: you idiot

And I have already made numerous boxing analyses on here. You even replied to some of them.

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Champion97

Thu, 2020-09-03 17:18

vc1088 Guy Incognito loves this sort of thing, back and forth, fruitless, repetitive arguing, the way to shut him up and stop him having the last word is to make it about boxing, because he knows very little about boxing and has no interest in learning more about it.

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Guy Incognito

Thu, 2020-09-03 22:29

Uh oh, here we go again.

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Champion97

Fri, 2020-09-04 00:53

Of course no reply to the boxing related post.

vc1088

Fri, 2020-09-04 04:07

I know I've seen him

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Guy Incognito

Fri, 2020-09-04 06:02

What are you on about?

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Champion97

Wed, 2020-09-02 13:42

If this was a disgraceful robbery, why are you the only one who had Postol by a landslide? 90% of us on here have it close either way, Boxing Scene had it a draw, that's a highly regarded paper, BadLeftHook, another good paper had very close. No shame in misinterpreting a fight, I did it myself the other week, but changed my scorecard when I realised I'd scored it wrong, this obviously wasn't a robbery.

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Guy Incognito

Thu, 2020-09-03 03:05

I didn't have Postol winning by a "landslide", and I wasn't the only one having Postol winning.

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Champion97

Thu, 2020-09-03 03:16

111-117 is probably a landslide, it's certainly wide. I very clearly said, most of us had it close, 2 points either way, it obviously wasn't a robbery. As usual, you've given up on backing up your opinion before the discussion has started, there is no point in saying what you think if you're not going to say why.

What it comes down to is, you misinterpreted the fight, doesn't make you stupid by any means, we've all done it, but that's obviously what happened here.

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Guy Incognito

Thu, 2020-09-03 17:00

Again, you are assuming that I must have made a mistake or "misinterpreted the fight", since you don't think anyone can validly disagree with your superior opinion. And you are saying now that I am not stupid, but it was not long ago that you called me "the stupidest person [you] ever encountered on the internet".

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Champion97

Thu, 2020-09-03 17:23

Your misinterpretation of the fight doesn't make you stupid, it's your response and unwillingness to accept you're wrong that makes you stupid.

I'm not repeating myself about this not being about agreeing or disagreeing or opinions. Everyone else who's commented, like me, is saying it wasn't a robbery, not that in their opinion it wasn't a robbery, but that it flat out wasn't, so with you saying it was a robbery, obviously, based on that alone, either you're wrong, or you're the only one who's right.

I challenge you to give me a good analysis for one of the upcoming fights.

vc1088

Fri, 2020-09-04 04:17

Guy Incognito, having Postol winning isn't a bad result. I actually can see the score you gave this fight as acceptable. Ramirez winning this fight isn't a robbery either. This was a very close fight that could have gone either way. Any time a fight like this happens, people like you come out and whine that robbery occurred. It's kind of weird. I was messing around with the one or two word replies, but I'm not replying to you anymore.

Don't forget anytime you judge a close fight to come on here an complain that a robbery occurred because you have a different opinion from the judges.

goosu

Wed, 2020-09-02 17:51

There is a difference between a close fight that could go either way and a robbery. This one wasn't even 60/40 or 70/30(where you might start arguing beneficial scoring), it was 50/50.

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Champion97

Sat, 2020-09-05 01:55

Very close fight, a fight with 2 halves, it could have gone either way, I think 116-112 is off the mark, but Postol got much fairer scoring than he got in Scotland, against Taylor.

I had it a draw, but I was far more impressed by Postol because of my expectations. I like Ramirez, but I think Taylor would beat him fairly comfortably, he won, fair decision, but he's very lucky Postol is old, if this was the Postol who fought Crawford or even Taylor, I think Postol would have won. Postol's age was definitely a factor in this fight, he started to slow down after 5 rounds, he got a second wind in rounds 9 and 10, but his speed and output dropped from what it was in the early rounds, and if he'd been younger, had more in the tank down the stretch, recovered faster in the minute between rounds, I think he'd have beaten Ramirez.

Postol boxed brilliantly in the first 5 rounds, his movement was great, he used pivots, his jab was solid, he used it to control the range, Ramirez didn't do a good job of cutting off the ring, didn't move his head, he started targeting the body too late, he was making Postol work at times, but Postol was throwing combinations, was very accurate, and Ramirez was waiting for Postol to stop throwing, he was the fighter who could always do more damage, he should have punched with Postol. Postol did a good job of clinching to stop Ramirez working on the inside. Ramirez came on in rounds 6-8, hurt Postol in round 7, wasn't able to build on it much, but he cut some of the distance, his blocking abilities got better as the fight went on, and he threw more shots as he was able to get into range more often. Postol's output and movement was better in the late rounds than the mid rounds, he was throwing jabs and combinations, and Ramirez lost some of the momentum he had in the mid rounds, I gave him the 10th, he had a good finish to the fight, but Ramirez was still blocking shots, moving into range, landing the more and the harder shots.

Taylor vs Postol was closer than the judges had it, Taylor probably didn't beat him much better than Ramirez did, but Taylor has definitely improved since the Postol fight, and Postol must have declined since he lost to Taylor, so Taylor would definitely be the favourite against Ramirez.

magic man

Thu, 2020-09-03 07:08

Close fight, it could go either way. I think that Ramirez did a little bit more, showing more will. The left hand that hurt Postol during the 7th round was a key shot, because the ucrainian had to give up two round in order to reestablish hilmself. Postol worked very well with his left jab and he was also very clever avoiding the ropes for the most part of the fight, but he was also a little bit too cautious and unwilling to throw his right hand.