Jesse Angel Hernandez vs Thomas Patrick Ward

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Jesse Angel Hernandez vs Thomas Patrick Ward
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Date: 
Saturday, February 16, 2019
Location: 
Kansas Star Arena, Mulvane, Kansas, USA
Rounds Scheduled: 
10
Contracted Weight: 
122
Titles at Stake: 
Vacant NABA Super Bantamweight USA Title
Referee: 
Bill Clancy

Official Judging
David Sutherland 89 - 100
Karen Holderfield 90 - 99
Mike Contreras 90 - 98

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Jesse Angel Hernandez
                                                                    
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9.25
Thomas Patrick Ward
                                                                    
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Fan Cards: Jesse Angel Hernandez vs Thomas Patrick Ward


scorecard by MJARSULIC
Round
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JESSE ANGEL HERNANDEZ
9
9
9
8
9
9
9
9
9
9
89
THOMAS PATRICK WARD
10
10
10
10
10
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10
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10
100


scorecard by BRAIN79
Round
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JESSE ANGEL HERNANDEZ
9
9
9
8
9
9
9
9
9
10
90
THOMAS PATRICK WARD
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
99


scorecard by THEICEMANJDOG
Round
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JESSE ANGEL HERNANDEZ
9
9
9
8
9
9
9
9
9
9
89
THOMAS PATRICK WARD
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
100


scorecard by BOXING KNOWLEDGE
Round
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JESSE ANGEL HERNANDEZ
9
9
9
8
9
9
9
9
9
9
89
THOMAS PATRICK WARD
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
100


Comments

SalTnutZ1's picture

Wish I could go to this show. If things weren’t so shit right now, I’d be there.

Champion97's picture

I'm very sorry about that buddy, without asking a stupid question, how are you holding up after your friend's passing?

SalTnutZ1's picture

I’m alright. Just have to keep moving. Been on the job hunt, so that occupies things. At my age, that is about the 10th person at least from growing up that I lost, so I’ve been to more funerals than I’d like.

Champion97's picture

To conclude our discussion from yesterday.

I believe Lopez is overhyped, overrated.

- Very inexperienced, very important, 12 fights is not many, and his opposition has been poor
- Has been down, very questionable knockdown, still a knockdown, note worthy, but can't take much from it, certainly wasn't hurt
- when a fighter has done as few rounds as he has, hasn't done the full 7, usually, more often that not, it says as much about the poor opposition as it does about the fighter's power.
- We don't know how early he could have stopped Magdelano, but if he carried him, that is a fault, doesn't get you rounds, his attitude stinks, and that can really damage a fighter's career, he lacks the desire to learn, like Eubank Jr.
- Leaning in the corner is a sign of fatuige

However
A lot of people are sold on Lopez,

- Both finishes against Menard and Magdelano were very impressive
- Barry Jones is one of the best if not the best British pundits, he is very impressed with Lopez's judgement of distance
- Despite his opposition, I can't knock his dominance, probably won every round in his last 3 fights
- has that natural power that can always get you far in boxing

We have different opinions, we will see who is right, if I'm right, I'm sure you will give me credit, credit to you if you are right. Fully respect your opinion that Lopez is the best prospect.

For what it's worth, I think Stevenson is the best prospect, how high you do you rate Stevenson?

I might not be able to see either fight bills on Saturday, which are you watching or both?

SalTnutZ1's picture

I think he may be top 10 at 126 already. That division is pretty thick will talent right now, so he may have to play some waiting game until someone moves up, or some unification bouts occur to get a title shot. Unfortunately, a lot of those champions aren’t super active fighters, so who knows how long he’ll be waiting. If they could find a way to match him with Xu for that Regular title, I think that’s a fight he could win this year.

Going to watch as much as I can. Have some job hunt stuff to do, and then a couple things around my moms house to help her, but hoping to get back to enjoy them.

Champion97's picture

I think waiting is what he needs, but he has the potential to be better than any of them, the Diaz fight is a real step up.

I hear you man, I have a few jobs to do for my mum as well.

If Whyte fights Povetkin, who wins that fight?

SalTnutZ1's picture

Going to try to watch the 2 small Facebook cards tonight if possible. Couple of good prospects on those cards, including some debuts. Plus there is an ESPN card Sunday, so even if I miss tomorrow live, there will still be some stuff to watch.

At this point, I'd lean Whyte. Prime vs prime, Povetkin for sure. Has such good skills, hits hard, manages to always be able to find his opponents chin and can hurt you. Would be a dangerous fight, and would be a real test for Whyte, as Povetkin is still skilled and dangerous. I feel the same about Ortiz. Both in a similar category. Very scary to fight, and can be very dangerous, without a ton of financial reward. If I'm Whyte, for strategic purposes, I'd be looking for the Breazeale fight, to reassert himself as WBC mandatory.

Champion97's picture

I'm looking forward to seeing Ramirez vs Zepeda.

That's his plan A for that very reason, but in terms of what would sell better, what would sell out the Arena faster, get more buys, Whyte vs Povetkin, for sure, and I think Povetkin would be more willing to travel.

I have no idea what on earth happened to Joyce vs Ortiz, neither have any time to waste, I don't know why they would take easy fights, when they are supposed to be pushing for a world title shot, and they have just had a few easy fights, that would have been a great fight, the winner would have earned a world title shot by my reckoning. In my opinion, Joyce vs Stiverne is pointless, and Joyce should fight at least 3 times this year.

SalTnutZ1's picture

Yeah, other than adding a “name” to his resume, it does nothing for him. I think he doesn’t really want Ortiz, as I believe he knows the hand speed of Ortiz could expose some things. Joyce fights very stiff, and I’m not sure how far he’ll go. If he’s durable, which that hasn’t been tested yet, he may be able to weather the storm from the smaller guys and hope his size and power win the day. We’ll see what happens. Definitely not a good look if his next fight isn’t against a top 15 HW.

Champion97's picture

I don't know if I believe he ducked him, we can't kniw for sure, but at the end of the day, if a fighter believes they won't beat Ortiz, why should they think they can beat the top 3? He does, but he also hits extremely hard, and is a counter puncher, that KO against Thomas, Hanks as well, great, then again, he is a bit robotic, any fighter who moves well could give him a lot of trouble, but he also has good amateur pedigree, is big, and has proven himself to be a great one punch finisher. I think his skilset as well, untested. I know it doesn't mean that much now, but it is worth noting that he was stopped in one round by Sergey Kuzmin in the amateurs. Definitely not, and Stiverne, now, is coming off over a year out, look at how inactive he has been since the Wilder loss, and how bad his form has been, he is absolutely shot, no resists left, reflexes are gone, Joyce can win by a 1st round KO, and not really impress, that's why it is such a bad match up.

Champion97's picture

I believe there was an upset last night in one of the fights that was on Facebook

SalTnutZ1's picture

A couple of youngins got picked off on each card. Will add a few of those fights today possibly.

Champion97's picture

Did you see any of the press conference for Davis vs Ruiz?, I did, and Tank looks terrible, gaunt, in the thumbnail for a video of the weigh in, he looked even worse, like a zombie, he missed the weight as well, I don't know why he doesn't just move up, then 135 wouldn't be so thin, definitely not if Lopez proves me wrong, and I think Tank, if he stays at 130 much longer, it will shorten his career.

SalTnutZ1's picture

I saw he had to go out and come back to make it. Blamed it on a scale in his room being incorrect, and says of not for that, he would have weighed in under the limit the first time. We’ll see come tonight if he looks sluggish. I think he may be done for the weight as well. If he moves up, him and Lopez will both likely be gunning for that WBC to get their Loma shot. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Berchelt move up soon, too, as the chances for a bigger payday seem to be at 135. That would inject some life into 135 for a bit, at least until Lopez and some others move up to 140 next year like they’ve talked about.

Champion97's picture

Yeah, that's happened before, it seems like at the very least, he hs no leeway, and when he makes the weight, it is absolute touch and go. That would put 130 in the position 135 is currently in, suppose 1 division's loss is another division's gain. If Lopez moves up to 140, I think Flanagan should be next for him, that's a big step up. Does Tank have what it takes to beat Lomachencko?

Also, I've changed my prediction on Spence vs Garcia

SalTnutZ1's picture

I think if he moves up, his team may target that Ramirez fight for a title, at least that is some of the chatter. Tank hits hard enough, and seems like he may be stronger at 135 if he’s draining himself to make 130. He would certainly be someone who could give him a tough night, which there aren’t too many guys who could. Beating him? Just like with Lopez and Berchelt, don’t know if they’d win, but those are the only 3 guys at 130-135 right now that at least have a shot at it in my view.

I saw that. If he wins, that is likely the scenario. Will have to box his way to a close victroy, and not get beaten by a body shot, which I think Spence will be ripping those shots all night until he lands something.

Champion97's picture

I think Ramirez beats him quite easily at this stage, and I really do think that, I don't think it would be as one sided as I would hope, just for the record, that is good guy vs bad guy if there was ever a fight like that, Ramirez is a top guy, does a lot for cancer research, does a lot of community work. If you are moving up in weight, jumping straight into a fight against Ramirez is stupid, he is relentless, has that very high output, variety. As you know, I am not at all sold on Lopez and don't rate him at world level, but Berchelt, Tank, both punchers, can both box as well, Lomachencko would have the size advantage if either went straight into the fight because he has 2 world title fights at 135 under his belt, but with the shoulder factor, and Lomachencko not being young, would be interesting fights. I think Tank is not getting credit because it seems to some people he is killing himself to make 130, to fight guys who are smaller than him, but rightly or wrongly, he has a title. I think there is no good reason for Tank to remain at 130, it was not long ago he was well above his fighting weight, short, erratic camps and making a weight you shouldn't medically be making, two things that can shorten a fighter's career, that is, if making the weight is as tough as it seems.

Very good point, I think the body shots will be a factor, but I think Spence will struggle with the range, it's that experience, ring wisdom, and Garcia's superior knowledge about hos opponent, I think he will be one step ahead, and if Spence tries to work the body, he will walk onto counters, I think Spence is very clever, he won't fixate on attacking the body too much, hold his ground to much, he will just build the body work into his game plan, Garcia has to be prepared for that, especially in clinches, not only can Spence overpower Garcia, but he can work the body as he punches out of the clinch. What's your prediction.

SalTnutZ1's picture

I like Ramirez as well. Good fighter and good dude. It’s just a fight that would be an easy promotional make, and if they(being Lopez’s team), don’t think the WBC route at 135 is possible, with them already saying he’s moving up next year no matter what, is just a matchup that would make sense.

Berchelt would be interesting because not only can he punch, he uses his height really well, and can fight inside and out pretty well. Tank is just so stocky, eventually, as you age, it’s harder to stay that small while you are working out, gaining more mass as you age, etc. So for sure, he needs to make the move for his health and career.

Not ready to make my pick yet. Want to see some more footage of Mikey at the weight, see how he’s carrying it. Leaning hard Spence as of now, just due to the “weight classes are for a reason” argument, but wouldn’t be shocked if Mikey could box his way to a win.

Champion97's picture

I still believe, from a non-biased perspective, his dad is an idiot for not getting it into his head, that he doesn't have so much to learn, and for the next step to be a world title, is far too much, too soon, not Lopez's responsibility, I still think he is nowhere near ready, and him going into a big fight next would be a Charlo vs Lubin repeat. I think a fighter has to do the rounds, has to be tested, has to adapt to a certain level, and Lopez hasn't done that, still, Lopez and his dad seem to think the kid is ready, so if Lopez Sr wants to send his son into a world title fight, to get his big mouth closed, he should go right ahead. It is a fight that would make sense for promotional reasons, and if he is ranked highest with the WBC and the WBC route is the best, it does make sense, but although the kid might be better than I think, I honestly (and I say this trying to be respectful of other opinions as I can), cannot accept he is anywhere near ready for a world title fight, Robert Garcia could come up with the game plan to beat a kid like Lopez, easy, all Lopez's opponents haven't been up to it, his dad, as a trainer, could be really tested, he is definitely not the trainer Garcia is, and not doing what Ryan Garcia's dad did (saying, 'I'm not up to it, kid can't be his best training with me, needs a trainer who knows what he's doing'), could be Lopez's undoing, but I suppose, he is somewhat similar to Angel Garcia, and love him or hate him, he could have done a hell of a lot worse a job training Danny.

From a non-biased perspective, I think being ambitious, but not reckless, put Lopez in against Flanagan next, he can afford to make mistakes without paying too dear a price, can either get 12 rounds under his belt (and real rounds, not useless rounds he could get in the gym), or make a statement and outdo Prograis (would he do that?, I doubt it), would be a great learning fight for him, would either see Flanagan prove he is either not good enough or just not ready for world level yet, prove me right, or he would dominate, stop Flanagan, make a statement, prove you right, either way, would answer the questions about Lopez.

Definitely, he has displayed his punching power, inside fighting ability many times, bjt against Miura, he showed he could box. Good point, and at his age, he is still maturing, which is natural weight, all the more reason to move up ASAP.

It is a very tough one to pick, because whatever Mikey does, moving up to 147 will put him at a big size disadvantage, that is inevitable, but on the other hand, Spence hasn't been as active as he aught to have been, that could be a factor in the early rounds, if Mikey starts well, he could find that rhythm, establish his ability to outbox Spence. It is one thing for people to assume Spence won't underestimate Garcia, but it is not unlikely, but I think Spence will prepare for a tough fight, if he leaves anything to chance, it will be a case of a champion not being as much of a hunter as the challenger, and a champion subconsciously underestimating the challenger.

Def the best match up of the night. TPW is faster and more technical but JAH is very tough and can counter hard even if the other guy lands first. This will be a real test but I think TPW is destined for the top 10 at super bantam and will just be too fast to stop. Ward UD 97-93.