Mon, 2017-02-06 20:58
I think this is a very interesting fight, and one which can be viewed in two very different ways. Haye vs Bellew was always a fight which was created by their personal disagreements and grudges rather than professionalism, which isn't a good thing in my opinion, then again, it is still an interesting fight, and now, it's a boxing fight we're going to see, not a bare knuckle brawl, I just hope the sportsmanship improves after the fight, I think that will be good for the sport, I think all the bad blood would be more than made up for, but I'm not confident that the bad blood will stop after the fight, because it isn't just heated arguemnts over disagreements and a personality clash, this is genuine dislike, I think Haye has a lot of anger towards a man who has very verbally disrespected him in front of many, mny people, and belittled his achievements, and Bellew, well he isn't the kind of man who can have the wool pulled over his eyes, he's also not the sort of man to say 'that's life', and acceot something which he doesn't think is fair, if he believes something isn't right, he will say so, he's very outspoken, and he feels (as do I) as if David Haye has been somewhat taking advantage of the gullibility of some British fans, and has also been given credit he doesn't deserve, talked a big talk, but not walked the walk, I think it was ridiculous fpr David Haye to have fought Mark De Mori, and Tony Bellew certainly agrees. I think some rivalry between Haye and Bellew is also created by an interest and desire they have in common, acting. I recall David Haye saying a few years ago, that he dreams of being an actor, and he has always made the most out of any opportunity he can to make himself something of a celebrity, but I've never heard him being in any major films or big TV shows, however, despite seeming merely out spoken and quite a character prior to this, most boxing followers know that Tony Bellew landed himself a role in 'creed' last year, a movie starring Sylvester Stallone, now that is a massive honor for any fighter, surely, and a huge opportunity, I'm sure Haye is very envious, and he would do himself more favours by doing the admirable thing in admitting that, he hasn't done anything like that, he has made Bellew's achievement seem like nothing like the big deal it was, he said 'you were playing yourself', when they were on SkySports together, and when a fighter gets a role like this, in that kind of big movie, you have to be impressed, maybe there were some sour grapes there, which just adds to the tension, and just builds up this grudge match even more.
I think Tony Bellew will win this fight, I think he's the figher who's still in his prime, he's been the much, much more active over the last few years, and I believe he's going to come out on top. I think although Haye and Bellew are two massive punchers, and two guys who can both be hurt, they do have very different styles, and very different strengths and weaknesses. David Haye, power wise, has always been underrated in my opinion, he is a massive pucnher, his KO ratio is impressive, and I think he's taken that power right up with him as he's become a more mature heavyweight, then again, all we have to go on there was that terribly one sided, quite pointless fight against Mark De Mori, and a better but still badly matched contest against Arnold Gjergjaj, but Haye is a concussive puncher, ans it isn't his only attribute. Haye is the kind of fighter who makes full use of both speed and power in both hands, and his general rhythm is very hard to break, but he can really come apart when a fighter finds his chin with their own power, or even just when a fighter can find a way around Haye's skills, Bellew, on the other hand, has the best brought out of him when he's challenged, he's not the kind of fighter who it is impossible to have meaningful success against, but he doesn't decline mentally or physically down the stretch of fights, he is extremely durable, extremely adaptble, and is dangerous throughout fights, his technical skills are great, his jab is fantastic, but the accuracy of his power shots which helps him use 100% of his potential power is what I think is the main thing which makes him such a good fighter. David Haye will train hard for any fight, and beat every opponent in the best way he can, he isn't a very decieving fighter, and as we saw against Arnold Gjergjaj, if he knows he is levels above his opponent, he will show everyone, Bellew, on the other hand, I believe, takes a fight as seriously as he believes it should be taken, I think he trains as hard as he believes the fight is, I think he will look sluggish, and uneducated against an opponent who can't challange him, he'll get the win, he'll probably get the stoppage, but he won't impress, and then when he faces a big name, or maybe just an opponent who he believes should be taken seriously, he's a very different fighter, I wasn't really impressed by any of Bellew's performances betweem Cleverly and Makabu, but then when he stepped up and fought Ilunga Makabu for the IBF title, I predicted him to lose the fight, but he rose to the occasion, looked great, and won that fight and then some, that showed me that Tony Bellew is very much a fighter who rises to the occasion. I think before Bellew has had the best brought out of him, Haye's establishment in the heavyweight division will be the biggest difference, and he will domiante the early rounds, I can see him knocking Bellew down at least once, and being a long way ahead after six rounds. I can see Bellew becoming more motivated as this fight goes on, I think Haye will tire, and both fighters will be digging deep, but Bellew will come out on top, and in the end, we will see the best Tony Bellew, he will capitalise upon Haye's weaknesses, and get the knock out. Bellew is a massive underdog in this fight, and it isn't hard to see why, given that right now, David Haye isn't even a small heavyweight, sk let's forget the question of whether or not he really belongs in this division, and Bellew, well he may be a real cruiserweight, he definitely is, he may also be a particularly big cruiserweight, but he's new to the heavyweight division, and I don't believe he'll benefit from competing in the unlimited weight category, the weight situation definvery strongly suggests that Haye is going to win this fight. On the other hand, Tony Bellew has been very acfive over the past few years, I believe he's been averaging two fights per year, and he's had a very productive 2016, getting two third round knock outs against stellar opposition, Haye has had two fights in the last four years, averaging a fight every 2 years, he has had two fights in 2016 as well, but neither were productive fights, and one, should bareky be counted, it was a bit of a confidence boost at best, so activity wise, it hasn't been and still isn't looking good for Haye, the outcome of this fight could depend on how big a part the weight situation and 2012-2017 activity comparison play.
Sat, 2017-03-04 14:18
I think this is gonna be a KO within 4 rounds for Haye.
Tue, 2017-03-07 05:55
Very unfortunate for Haye, he still held his own after the freak injury and managed to win 2 rounds on my scorecard after the injury due to Bellew doing very little.
Tue, 2017-04-11 16:06
Excuses are never good, Bellew won, people never give him the credit he deserves, he even if he knocked Haye out of the ring, oh wait, yeah, he did that, haha, come on, Bellew did plenty even in rounds 8 and 9, he only had inactive periods because he emptied the tank trying to finish a close to gone Haye, he won round 8, no question, round 9 could have gone either way. Had Haye not been injured, Bellew might still have won, it is 50/50, I'm 99% sure the fight would have gone the distance, and it would have been close.
If David Haye can accept that Bellew was the better man on the night, and was the deserving victor, then why can't fans such as yourself?, retorical question.
Wed, 2017-04-05 23:40
Very courageous effort by Haye.
Thu, 2017-04-06 17:33
Yes, I think as his injury heals, he will look back on this fight in a positive way, although I believe the point, 'most fighters would have bailed' is false, I think Haye set an example of how tough you have to be to go far in boxing.
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Sat, 2017-08-19 13:36
What a fight!
I think this fight was badly predicted, as you can see, I called this fight. This, should have been considered a 50/50 fight, Haye, with the more reliable strategies, Bellew, a fighter who rises to the occasion, literally never stops believing he can win, and thrives off a challange, Haye, coming off a 4 year layoff, then two fights (one of them virtually a nothing fight), then being inactive for 9-10 months (Bellew actully beat Makabu after Haye beat Gjergaj), on the other hand, Haye, the man with weight on his side, the established heavyweight.
I believe that the problem in the UK is the source for liklihood, bookies, gambling, fans polls whoch anybody can access, this means nothing, I think the head of some kind of gambling organisation should never be interviewed. What I notice, looking back, is that the general idea amongst predictions all over the world, "there will be no round 5!", "Bellew dies March 4!", "this is a huge mismatch", "this is a massive mismatch, Haye wins, maybe in every single way, in every aspect", "Haye wins in 2 rounds!", these predictions were all over Youtube, all over every boxing forum, any kind of social environment, these predictions can come from anybody, there are millions, and millions, of casual fans who glance at records, know little about fighters, know little about boxing really, some are morons, some accept the truth, and are fine to maintain there interest without real knowledge, some are just starting to understand boxing, but at the end of the day, it was these people who made it so that Bellew was such an underdog, why?, because there are so many of them.
When the experts, when the people who really know what they are talking about were asked, they all gave their opinions, and none of them said it was a mismatch, out of resepct to Bellew? The absence of the word mistatch may have been, but there actual excact theories, no.
Paulie Malignaggi, arguably the best boxing analyst on the planet, said that this was a 50/50 fight, he is an honest man, he didn't even make a prediction, I believe he said they were even, Spencer Fearon hinted that Bellew could well, pull off the upset, Johnny Nelson, struggling to make a prediction, maybe just edging Haye, Carl Froch, again, struggling to make a prediction, maybe just edging Haye, both these experts (who are former world champions, as a pose the bookies who have never worn gloves in their life), James Degale, Dereck Chisora, predicting Bellew to stop Haye, Spencer Oliver, Adam Booth, edging Haye, but not with so much confidence, explaining that it was interesting fight. As always, bookies, gambling, odds, polls on twitter, people who don't know boxing, having power they shouldn't have, is what mislead and misinformed the public, from now on, for liklihood, for favourites, there should be one thing on the screen, one method, should be predictions from pundits, 90% of them former boxers, percentages, that's it.
When Frankie Gavin was about to fight Leonard Bundu, I'm sure the bookies all said Gavin would win with ease, and so did many fans, I said Bundu would beat Gavin, so did a few boxing pundits, Steve Bunce said it would be a very tough one.
It was the idea amongst gamblers, casual fans, and bookies, that Joshua would get rid of Dillian Whyte in one round, admittedly, I thought this too, Joshua himself said that Whyte would take him past 4 rounds, Tyson Fury said it was a 50/50 fight, Deontay Wilder predicted Whyte to beat Joshua.
When Stuart Hall was defending his IBF title against Paul Butler, bookies thought Butler would school him, so did idiot Jeff Powell (phoney pundit), real pundits said it was going to be a close fight.
The bookies, the fans who think they know boxing but don't, all thought Klitschko would destroy Fury, most pundits predicted Klitschko but gave Tyson Fury a good chance, I predicted Fury to win, so did Amir Khan, so did Deontay Wilder.
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