Carlos Canizales vs Bin Lu

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Carlos Canizales vs Bin Lu
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3
Average: 3 (1 vote)

Date: 
Sunday, July 15, 2018
Location: 
Axiata Arena, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Rounds Scheduled: 
12
Contracted Weight: 
108
Titles at Stake: 
WBA (Regular) Light Flyweight World Title
Referee: 
Gustavo Padilla

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Fan Cards: Carlos Canizales vs Bin Lu


scorecard by BOXING KNOWLEDGE
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CARLOS CANIZALES
10
9
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
108
BIN LU
9
10
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
8
100


scorecard by CHAMPION97
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CARLOS CANIZALES
10
9
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
108
BIN LU
9
10
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
8
100


scorecard by GOOSU
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CARLOS CANIZALES
10
9
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
9
10
107
BIN LU
9
10
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
10
8
101


scorecard by GOLD
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CARLOS CANIZALES
10
9
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
108
BIN LU
9
10
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
8
100


scorecard by MONAGFAM
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CARLOS CANIZALES
10
10
10
10
9
10
9
10
10
10
10
108
BIN LU
9
9
9
9
10
9
10
9
9
9
8
100


scorecard by SALTNUTZ1
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
CARLOS CANIZALES
10
9
10
10
9
10
10
9
10
10
10
107
BIN LU
9
10
9
9
10
9
9
10
9
9
8
101


Comments

Gold's picture

This is an interesting bout at least from the perspective of Lu Bin being able to get this matchup with such little pro experience. From watching Lu Bin's one pro fight versus a Thai journeyman, he does have a relatively pro-oriented style for having a long amateur career and little pro experience. He sits down on his punches pretty well and throws nice combinations to the body and head. I think he could utilize the jab a little more and some of his punches seemed to be more flash than substance, but I think that is due mostly to his inexperience. Defensively, he looked hittable with little head or upper body movement. Canizales is an experienced opponent, he drew Taguchi who was a legitimate world champion and beat a domestic level guy in Reiya Konishi to win the WBA Regular title. Unless Lu Bin didn't respect his opponent, I think this will be a bridge too far for him this early in his career and Canizales should win decisively. However, if Lu Bin wins this will be a great way to mess with Lomachenko fans. Lu Bin the new #1 p4p by winning a "world" title in 2 fights and breaking Lomachenko's record.

SalTnutZ1's picture

I think a lot in that first fight was knowing he was against a walk through opponent. I've seen some training and amateur footage; the kids has good chops, still raw, but definitely not a simple, mechanical fighter, from what I've seen. I'd not be surprised to see him coast to a win. I'll try to find and post some.

Gold's picture

I watched the AIBA match and he looks quite good, I think it should be a fun fight.

Gold's picture

Thanks, I will have to watch them.

Gold's picture

Here is an exhibition match he had versus former WBC minimumweight champion Xiong Zhao Zhong in 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1NWMQz8bPg
He looks quite good

Champion97's picture

Prediction,

Carlos Canizales is good, world champion, undefeated, he is still young, 25, probably in his prime now. Canizales did well against Taguchi, that is the only fight he hasn't won, and it was a split draw, one of the judges had him winning quite wide, another had him losing fairly wide, and the decider had it even. It is a good win for Canizales, is the Konishi victory, winning the vacant title, beating a good, also unbeaten fighter.

Bin Lu seems like a good fighter, he was a 2016 Olympian, he didn't make the quarterfinals, but he was still involved in the Olympics. Lu is 23 years old, he is 1-0, he got a 3rd round stoppage in a 10 round scheduled fight, good start, but no way is he ready for a world title fight, this is too early.

Canizales has had 21 fights, he's 20-0, Lu, with just the one fight, there is no comparison for professional experience.

Canizales isn't coming off a layoff, he hasn't been inactive over the past year or two. Lu, as well being inexperienced, is also coming off 9-10 months of inactivity, more than ideal, definitely for the time gap between a fighters first and second fight, a lot of fighters fight 6 times a year at this early career stage. Canizales has activity on his side, provided this isn't too soon after the Konishi fight, which it probably isn't.

I think Canizales has the age advantage, it is just 2 years more maturity, I think 23 is before a fighter hits his prime.

Lu does have a 2 inch height advantage, he may be the naturally bigger, but Canizales is a career light flyweight.

Lu probably does have the better amateur background.

Lu's KO percentage is 100, but obviously, that doesn't mean much after 1 fight, so it is hard to say if he is a puncher, we don't know how he will succeed power wise as career progresses. Canizales seems to be a puncher, 76% KO ratio, he hasn't faced many if any really good world level fighters apart from Konishi and Taguchi, but those are fights which contain a lot of experience, and he has still won 16 by stoppage. It is tough to say who is is really the puncher in this fight.

The biggest factor, by far, seems to be experience.
Canizales, 4 years as a professional, 21 fights, 20 wins, no losses, 2 world title fights, been past 10 rounds 3 times.
Lu, been a professional under a year, 1 fight, not been 3 full rounds.

I think Canizales will win this, and quite comfortably.
If Lu is a talented fighter with a lot of potential, we will see brief moments of success from him in rounds 3 and 4 maybe I think, flashes when he looks like a really good fighter, but basically, even if he does have a world level future ahead of him, he will be clearly not ready for a fight like this. I think Lu will try his best, but he will be well behind after 6, and in rounds 7 and 8, he will get hurt, his heart, chin will be tested. I think Lu will survive, and he will rally in rounds 9 and 10, but I think when both fighters are tired, Canizales will know how to do some work without exerting himself too much, Lu won't, Canizales will be able to take rests, Lu won't, and Canizales will have a good 11th, I think the last round will be close, Lu will want and need the last round more, Canizales will still be able to do good work more easily than Lu.

I think Canizales beats Lu by UD, 115-113, 116-112, 118-110.

I don't know why regular titles are being considered the same as official titles. I mean it basically means you are the top contender now, not that you actually hold the belt. You could count it as a record on technicality, but it wouldn't be as valuable as a win for a real belt. WBA Super and regular do not have the same prestige, and really it is BS they keep putting that belt out there despite promising to eliminate it.

As for the actual fight, I think Lu looks impressive in the little footage he has out there. Not a ton of movement, but he looks like he has good offensive fundamentals and he commits to his punches(which can be a problem for transitioning amateurs). This is a big step up, might it might be more doable at a very light weight like light flyweight where top fighters traditionally have less amateur(and sometimes pro) experience and are not as much of a level above their competition. It's not that I don't respect the competition down there because there ARE still great boxers, but belt there don't hold the same prestige as the rest of the belts for me until we get up to Super Fly.

With all that said, Canizales is at prime age for a light fly, and I haven't seen enough of Bin to make him the favorite.

Champion97's picture

Welcome to Eye on the ring!

I agree 100% on the WBA, it is unnecessary, confusing, and unfair on the fighters.

Too much too soon. Lu will have to drop down a few levels and build himself back up. He doesn't know how to manage distance right now, has weak stamina, and needs to work on his defense(especially on the inside). Canizales looked really impressive, and it would be fun to see him go up against Hekkie in the future.

SalTnutZ1's picture

I agree. I thought his amateur chops, and work with Pacquiao's camp would bring some aggression and better stamina, but he was rough on both fronts. Looked pretty lethargic from the jump. Wonder if he had some weight issues. Also, I agree on Canizales. He can rough some guys up with that style, and would provide a good matchup for anyone at Light Fly. I underestimated his level for sure.

Champion97's picture

What a fighter is Carlos Canizales! That is a big reputation enhancing fight for him, he is a world champion, has been in big fights before, is in his prime, is experienced now, I think in the next 5 years or so, he could become a well known fighter, if he could get another belt, he isn't the only world champion, there is also Hekkie Budler, who recently upset Taguchi, Budler vs Canizales in a unification would be great to see, and he has two belts, Budler, and there is also Ken Shiro, who recently made a statement with an early knockout over Ganigan Lopez, and Angel Acosta as well, with a recent win, so there are a few champions, and all doing well, impressing, defending their titles, there are a lot of options, but we all love to see a good unification fight.

What a brave fighter is Bin, and what a talented fighter as well. I think for a start, let's hope he is safe, and if he is, if he recovers, continues his career, with this as much needed experience, I think if Bin keeps winning, working his way up through the levels, he can be a world champion, he has that level of potential. In this fight, we did not see a a fighter who lacked heart, or a fighter who isn't good enough, we saw a fighter who was nowhere near ready, hadn't had a chance to adapt to the pros, and was thrown straight into the deep end, showed guts, we saw shades of talent, technical skill, but consistently, his general lack of familiarity, his lack of consistency, everything almost, he just simply was not ready, at 1-0, it was always 99% definitely going to be the case, and in the end, he got beaten up, hurt, and it is very sad to see, fighters should be prepared before they compete in fights like this.