Antonio Margarito vs Carson Jones

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Antonio Margarito vs Carson Jones
Fan Rating: 
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4
Average: 4 (1 vote)

Date: 
Saturday, September 2, 2017
Location: 
Gimnasio Manuel Bernardo, Aguirre, Chihuahua, Chihuahua, Mexico
Rounds Scheduled: 
10
Contracted Weight: 
154
Referee: 
Ricardo Manjarrez

Official Judging
Miguel La Torre 68 - 64
Juan de Dios Reyes 67 - 65
Pedro Ruiz De La Pena 67 - 65

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Averaged Fan Card:

round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Antonio Margarito
                                                                    
9.20
9.80
10
9.80
9
9
9
Carson Jones
                                                                    
9.80
9.20
9
9.20
9
10
10


Fan Cards: Antonio Margarito vs Carson Jones


scorecard by CHAMPION97
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANTONIO MARGARITO
9
10
10
10
9
9
9
66
CARSON JONES
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
66


scorecard by KUBALA1122331
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANTONIO MARGARITO
10
9
10
9
9
9
9
65
CARSON JONES
9
10
9
10
9
10
10
67


scorecard by CAPMAN
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANTONIO MARGARITO
9
10
10
10
9
9
9
66
CARSON JONES
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
66


scorecard by RORSCHACH
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANTONIO MARGARITO
9
10
10
10
9
9
9
66
CARSON JONES
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
66


scorecard by BOXING KNOWLEDGE
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANTONIO MARGARITO
9
10
10
10
9
9
9
66
CARSON JONES
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
66


Comments

Champion97's picture

Prediction,

Not a great match up in my opinion, could be fun for fight fans to watch, but I don't expect it to be a classic, and I can think of more reasons why this fight shouldn't happen than vise verse, then again, it is a more necessary than Mayweather vs McGregor was.

Antonio Margarito has had a very good career, he was a very good fighter in his prime, he has always been strong, tough, powerful, he has been in with big names, Cotto, Mosley, Pacquiao, and he has some decent wins, and one great win, a victory over a then undefeated Miguel Cotto, back in 2008. Margarito's brutal stoppage of Cotto wasn't exactly a clean, fair, legally fought vicotry, it came to light after the fight, that Margarito's trainer had broken important rules whilst wrapping his fighter's hands, using, shall we say, 'dodgy' hand wraps. The hand wrap scandal put the Puerto Rican boxing legend at a terrible disadvantage, and was at least a substantial factor in him losing. Margarito's reputation, to this day, is damaged by what happened in the Cotto fight, 9 years ago, though maybe not blameless, ultimately, it was primarily the fault of his trainer at the time. As well as the Cotto win, Margarito boasts wins over Sergio Martinez, Joshua Clottey, Kermit Cintron, and other well known fighters, so he is historically a great fighter you could say, but Margarito has taken some beatings, been in a lot of wars, he was beaten to a pulp by Miguel Cotto in a rematch in 2011, Cotto winning most if not all rounds before stopping a battered Margarito in a successful redemption victory for the boxing legend. Margarito has also suffered heavy beatings from Shane Mosley, Manny Pacquiao, and these are not the only punishing beatings he's taken. Margarito, in 2011, after the Miguel Cotto rematch, was diagnosed with a serious, potentially very dangerous eye problem, and seemed to have retired when the next few years passed without him fighting, but 5 years later, in 2016, Margarito, surpringly, returned to the ring, in a 10 rounds battle, against, though not a terrible opponent, not a good one at all by the standards of this level, he was coming off a 5 year layoff, but this opponent came quite close to beating him, before winning a 10 round split decision over Ramon Alvarez (brother of boxing superstar Saul Alvarez), who is a good fighter at a certain level, at any level, he isn't 'a bum', but he certainly isn't his brother. Margarito defeated Alvarez earlier this year, he has been 20 rounds in his last 2 fights, but he has had 2 fights in 6 years, he probably shook off a fair bit of ring rust with his two wins over the past year or so, but he was out for a long, long time, and did those two fights just put even more miles on the clock? Margarito, at 39, I believe has nothing left in the tank really, it is quite sad, it is hard for fighters when they go downhill, but it is the reality of the situation. I think Margarito is still rusty from his time outside of the ring, I think he is a lot more vulnerable than he thinks he is, his punch resistance is nothing like what it used to be, his speed, stamina, durability, recovery, decreased massively. Apart from the two brutal beatdowns from Cotto and Mosley, Margarito has never been stopped, but with 8 losses on his record, and having had such a toll taking career, I believe it is dangerous for him to be fighting. Margarito will earn some money here, he can get in the ring, and try his best, fighting, boxing, it is who he is, and you can't change who a person truly is. One positive which will come out of this fight, is that Margarito is not fighting a negative technical fighter who will nullify his attempt to have a brawl as he has always loved to do, he is in a fight here which I think will be an absolute dogfight.

Carson Jones is a solid boxer, a very dangerous fighter, unpredictable, experienced, very experienced at a certain level, and tough as nails, very durable. After 56 professional fights, it is hard to believe Jones is only 31, I don't assume he had a long amateur career, if he did, he must have started boxing very early, he's been a professional in 2004, so he must have been about 18 when he made his pro debut. Jones hadn't competed at a very high relative level before he fought Kell Brook in 2012, he had fought to a draw with Delray Raines, he had been stopped by Alfonso Gomez, he had won USA titles, but he had fought for a world title or really been close to it. He fought Kell Brook in the UK, for an International title, as the underdog, being behind at the halfway point, Jones, bloodied and battered an exhausted Kell Brook late in the fight, only to lose a majority decision. Jones hadn't a few fights, before losing a rematch to Brook via 8th round TKO. In 2015, Jones travelled to the UK again, this time to face Blackpool's Brian Rose, Jones hurt Rose early, and in the opening round, the referee stopped the fight, Rose wasn't happy at all, felt it was a premature stoppage, it possibly was, but it was a good win for Jones. Jones lost the Rose rematch which took place later in the year, in a quite one sided, but competitive, gruelling 12 round battle. Carson Jones came to the UK again November of 2016, fighting unbeaten Ben Hall at Wembley stadium, Hall was inexperienced, young, had had 10 fights, but he was still the favourite. Jones stopped Hall in 6 rounds, impressing everybody, winning the silver international 154 lb title. Jones has been out of the ring for 9 months, not a long layoff really, maybe slightly longer than ideal, but nothing which should take him out of his rhythm. I believe Carson Jones is a fighter who learned on the job, has had so many professional fights, keeps gaining experience, probably thrives off being the underdog, and now, he has an opportunity to fight a big name, in a fight which he will be extremely confident he can win, and win by stoppage. I think this is the perfect match up for Jones, he has only been stopped 3 times in 11 defeats in his career, he can certainly fight! He's dangerous, he is fighting an opponent who can challenge him, but also an opponent who is 8 years older than him, and opponent who he is very unlikely to struggle to hit, and quite frankly, unlikely to struggle to hurt. Jones is unpredictable, he has looked disappointing in the ring many times, but I believe we may see the best Carson Jones we have ever seen in this fight, maybe even topping his performances against Brook and Hall.

I think Carson Jones will win this fight, and win brutally. I think Jones will stop Margarito in 8 rounds. Margarito may get the better of the first 2-3 rounds of this fight, he's slightly taller, got a slightly longer reach than Jones, he has a lot more experience at world level behind him, his best victory is leaps and bounds ahead of Jones, his inside fighting ability might seem to be slightly better, early. Margarito may have beaten Sergio Martinez and Miguel Cotto once upon a time, but he is 39, and I think a completely shot fighter, he is against a younger man, who beats him for fight count over the span of 3 years, 6-2. I think Jones will be in the fight from the first bell, and round about round 4, I think he will begin to over power, out fight a drained, tiring Margarito. I think Jones will take his time for a couple of rounds, maybe picking his shots wisely, with Margarito unable to let the punches go, unable to sustain anything, Jones will keep gaining control. I think from round 6 to round 8, Jones will absolutely batter Margarito, I think Margarito, after a few brutal, punishing minutes, will be almost defenceless, shipping a massive amount of punishment, unable to respond with anything, I think Margarito will be in the ring only because he is tough enough to and willing to stand there and have seven bells knocked out of him. I think the referee will stop the fight later than ideal, with Margarito barely able to stay on his feet, fighting on only instinct, with the scores at the time of the stoppage, being, 69-64, 69-64, 68-65.

I think Margarito has nothing really to lose here in this fight, he has already had his career, he has been on the big stage, he has beaten a couple of boxing legends, does that make him a boxing legend?, not necessarily, but you could make an argument for him. Margarito probably believes he can be great in boxing, if he does, and this bout isn't 100% financially motivated, which I'm 99% sure it is not, then he does have a fair bit to gain from this fight, not a great deal, it isn't like Carson Jones is a big name, but he would still be beating a guy who gave Kell Brook all he could handle, and just beat up a young, unbeaten prospect, wouldn't be a bad win. I believe that Margarito, definitely, without question, should be retired, this fight shouldn't really be happening in my opinion, and of he does take the beating I think he will take in this fight, then he should definitely retire after this fight, because I think it is sad to think of a former victor over Martinez, Cotto, Clottey, getting pummelled by Carson Jones, not to mention the risks of a 39 year old who's brain has always been through so much wear and tear, and has some history of serious vision issues, being beaten furthermore, unnecessarily, he could get badly hurt. Something which I think is likely for Margarito, is that although up it isn't the only reason, money is one of the main reasons why he made a comeback. The reality is, in boxing, yes, fighters get massive paydays, yes, 30 grand, is a very small relative amount of money for two warriors in a 10 round slugfest to be paid, but these guys have bills to pay, bills that don't disappear when they retire from boxing. Boxers, in terms of sick pay, pension, compensation, is not convenient to say the least, boxers are paid erratically, unlike a steady, reliable job, in which a worker earns consistently, not a very large amount, but is insured, will get a pension, can claim money if unwell, can claim compensation (although I think compensation is rarely dependent on which career someone has), so for boxers, financially, it can be very tough, and if a boxer has the chance to probably take a beating, if the boxer is even struggling to convince himself he can win the fight, he will still do it in order to provide for his family. I believe Margarito, at the moment, has every bit of confidence that he will beat Jones, the difference in resumé is huge, Jones has lost more fights, and against a lower level of opposition, and Margarito can ask, who has this guy beaten? Brian Rose, Ben Hall, they are good fighters, but they are not Cotto and Martinez that is for sure, so Margarito will definitely think he win this one, he probably thinks he can win big. I hope Margarito is well paid for this fight, I hope, win or lose, retire, or not, Margarito comes out if this fight, safe and well, safety and well being are always the most vital things in boxing. Margarito should mentally benefit from this fight, in that he will do what he loves, try his best, be who he is, earn money, but mentally, it won't be good for his sense of safety awareness. I would be happy for Margarito has if he was to win this fight, if either we see the poorer version of Carson Jones, or Margarito is fresher than I think he is, and has the skill, experience, talent to work around not being the fighter he once was. If Margarito does manage to pull a victory out the bag here, then I think he would be highly unlikely to retire, if he gets battered and stopped in 8, like I think he will, then I can easily see him retiring or not retiring. Aside from most of our opinions based on the long term safety of a fighter, whenever Margarito retires, whether it is just after this fight, or in 5 years time, he can walk away from this sport, and give himself a pat on the back, he has been in fantastic, entertaining fights time and time again, he was very, very good in his prime, he was an asset to the sport, and proved himself to be an absolute warrior everytime, win or lose.

I think Carson Jones is known as a decent fighter who has never beaten a really big name, but can give just about anybody a tough fight on his day, but he isn't the most talented, the most skilful, and he doesn't always show up at his best. For Jones, a victory over Antonio Margarito would be fantastic, it would be great for his resumé, it wouldn't be bad at all for his reputation, I don't know if this possible win could directly lead to big opportunity, but I think it could be step towards a high profile fight, that is, if Carson Jones has aspirations to become a world champion, which I believe he might, almost any boxer will take a big opportunity, accept that kind of offer and have an easy time deciding whether or not to do so, but when we look at an unpredictable fighter like Carson Jones, who has just stopped an unbeaten prospect in his backyard, has commented on this upcoming fight in a way which would suggest he is determined to win, shall we say, 'I'm going to pound him', 'I will retire Antonio Margarito in his own country!', but hasn't been consistent in the past in terms of staying focused, keeping winning and impressing at a level in which he needs to do so in order to secure bigger opportunities, but of course, can't be written off, it is unknowable whether at this stage of his career, 13 years as a professional, 56 fights behind him, he is whether he is fighting to win at a certain level, for money, to do what he loves, but isn't determined to get to the top of his division, or win a world title, and he is just confident he can win this fight, or whether he is confident he can and determined to become a world champion, and show himself to be a massive over performer, in a much bigger way than he did against Brook and Hall, in that case of course, this fight would just be another step towards his ultimate goal, and a chance to make a statement, rather than this fight being a bout in which a win is the biggest target he is aiming for. I don't think Jones has a great deal to lose, but due to a few of his fights, he's got a name in the boxing world, so a defeat here, to a 'washed up' Antonio Margarito, would be very disappointing, bad for his reputation, and in terms of getting decent opportunities, big paydays on a future basis, a defeat here would be bad news for Oklahom. If Jones wins this fight, and wins it well, then I believe he will be deserving a chance to earn a shot at a world title.

rorschach's picture

Great write up as usual Champ, but the true main event of this card is 32-0 Konstantin Ponomarev vs 21-0 Carlos Ocampo. That's going to be a good match against 2 very young men neither with not a lot of pop. One of which is putting his undefeated record and top 20 (17th) ranking at Welterweight on the line and going into the lion's den of the others country of Mexico to try to take the other young mans 0. Ocampo as I said is also undefeated and a top 25 (23rd) ranked Welterweight. It will have to be a convincing performance from Ponomarev, to get a decision in Mexico against a promising young Mexcian fighter, but 24 year old Konstantin did just that not long ago against fellow young Top Rank promoted prospect Michael Zewski so beating the home fighter is not something unfamiliar to him. Haven't seen much of Ocampo, but I've heard a lot of good things, you should add this matchup Champ, it should be the best fight of the night.

Champion58's picture

I think Jones might edge this one.

rorschach's picture

I do as well...different Champ. If Jones' chin holds up, I can see him putting Tony away, hopefully they inspect his wraps carefully before they let him put them on.

rorschach's picture

There was pretty heavy corruption from most of the officals working this fight. Ref ruling cut caused by a headbutt when it was clearly caused by a punch several seconds before their heads came together. A bs point deduction from Jones and the ref taking his sweet time enforcing it giving Maragrito time to recover from being hurt. Then the time keeper ends conveniently ends the same round when Margarito is still in trouble 22 seconds early. And finally the corner of Margarito knowing the had the lead on the cards use the bs cut caused by a butt ruling to stop the fight because their fighter was getting KO'ed in the next round 2 tops. Feel bad for Carson Jones, he knew what was up the second they stopped the fight.

Margarito is done, he was on the verge of getting knocked out by a gassed out club fighter, the dude needs to retire. If he does get his 3rd fight with Cotto, Miguel puts him to sleep this time.

Champion97's picture

Was it anything like my prediction?

albertocastany's picture

Heard this on was great...looking forward for the replay

Champion97's picture

I thought Margarito would lose this one, but he pulled it out the bag, against a tough opponent, props to him, it was a controversial win, but ultimately, the answer to whether or not a fighter won a fight is what matters most, and Margarito deserves credit. I still think he should retire permanently now, Margarito, and there is no chance of the trilogy against Miguel Cotto. I do think there is a strong case you could make, that Jones was unlucky here, he was in his opponent's backyard, and it is very possible, that the younger fighter was going to dominate the later rounds, in what had been a close fight overall, after 7, but none of it really matters at the end of the day, Margarito won, no ifs, no buts, he proved me wrong on this one.