Andy Ruiz vs Anthony Joshua II

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Andy Ruiz vs Anthony Joshua II
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Date: 
Saturday, December 7, 2019
Location: 
Diriyah Arena, Diriyah, Saudi Arabia
Rounds Scheduled: 
12
Contracted Weight: 
Unlimited
Titles at Stake: 
WBA, IBF, WBO Heavyweight World Titles (Ruiz's 1st defence)
Referee: 
Luis Pabon

Official Judging
Steve Gray 109 - 119
Glenn Feldman 110 - 118
Benoit Roussel 110 - 118

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Averaged Fan Card:

round 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Andy Ruiz Jr
                                                                    
9
9.05
9.06
9.40
9
9.01
9.03
9.94
9.18
9.03
9.03
9
Anthony Joshua
                                                                    
10
9.96
9.94
9.59
10
9.98
9.98
9.05
9.81
9.96
9.96
10


Fan Cards: Andy Ruiz vs Anthony Joshua II


scorecard by THEDONQUIXOTE
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
108
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
120


scorecard by JUSTINBOXING234
Round
1
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9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
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9
9
108
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
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120


scorecard by JORDAN1401
Round
1
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9
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
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9
9
9
10
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9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
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119


scorecard by DIZZY
Round
1
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
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9
9
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9
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9
9
108
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
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10
10
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120


scorecard by KOTARO
Round
1
2
3
4
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6
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9
10
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
ANTHONY JOSHUA


scorecard by PMARKO
Round
1
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
10
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10
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110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
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118


scorecard by KMSCR83
Round
1
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
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9
9
9
111
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
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10
10
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117


scorecard by SCP23
Round
1
2
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
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109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
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119


scorecard by TUXTUCIS
Round
1
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
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111
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
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10
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118


scorecard by AADBAA
Round
1
2
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
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10
10
10
9
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119


scorecard by BOYGLE
Round
1
2
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
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10
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110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
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10
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118


scorecard by SEGHILASEI
Round
1
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
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9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
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119


scorecard by TYLERRCURTIS
Round
1
2
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9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
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9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
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10
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119


scorecard by ZAC.RJ
Round
1
2
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8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
118


scorecard by AJPENA
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
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118


scorecard by POWERPUNCHER999
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by MIKE25
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by JPRADO218
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by MUSHAVR96
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
118


scorecard by THEUNDEFEATED
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
10
9
110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
9
10
118


scorecard by WILLY MAGNIN
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by ALEST88
Round
1
2
3
4
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8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by DARSHAN8199
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
111
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
117


scorecard by MAGIC MAN
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
118


scorecard by ABURIUS
Round
1
2
3
4
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8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
10
9
10
9
9
9
10
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9
9
111
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
118


scorecard by ARJ GUY
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by OLAAIN1994
Round
1
2
3
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5
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7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by GUY INCOGNITO
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
111
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
117


scorecard by MBUCK
Round
1
2
3
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8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by ONLY1
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by FLOYD TOUGH COMPETITOR MAYWEATHER
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
118


scorecard by STATICERUPTION
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
111
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
117


scorecard by MATTDIXON
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
111
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
10
117


scorecard by HTTP
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
10
9
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
111
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
9
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
117


scorecard by GOOSU
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
118


scorecard by STINGEV98
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
118


scorecard by CHRIS M95
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
118


scorecard by PHILLYPHAN69
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
118


scorecard by CHAMPION58
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
9
111
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
118


scorecard by EMīLS MATIASS REINFELDS
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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8
9
10
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
10
10
9
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
114
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
9
9
10
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
114


scorecard by CASUALFAN
Round
1
2
3
4
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8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
118


scorecard by NOCTISSOLID
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by ADAMJO260
Round
1
2
3
4
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8
9
10
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by OTURN10
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by HART
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by VC1088
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
111
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
117


scorecard by SAM11333
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by AJ KNIGHT
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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7
8
9
10
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
111
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
117


scorecard by ANDRE_B99
Round
1
2
3
4
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8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by GOLD
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
118


scorecard by MINIMAXBOXING
Round
1
2
3
4
5
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7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by HAGLERGOAT
Round
1
2
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8
9
10
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by PETIEROACH
Round
1
2
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9
10
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12
Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
9
9
9
109
ANTHONY JOSHUA
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
10
10
10
119


scorecard by SETO
Round
1
2
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9
10
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Total
ANDY RUIZ JR
9
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110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
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118


scorecard by JONTAM23
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ANDY RUIZ JR
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ANTHONY JOSHUA
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119


scorecard by JAROD KILLIAN
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ANDY RUIZ JR
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ANTHONY JOSHUA
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scorecard by CHAMPION97
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ANDY RUIZ JR
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ANTHONY JOSHUA
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scorecard by ALBERTOCASTANY
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ANDY RUIZ JR
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ANTHONY JOSHUA
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scorecard by NF82
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ANTHONY JOSHUA
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scorecard by SALTNUTZ1
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ANDY RUIZ JR
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110
ANTHONY JOSHUA
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118


Comments

Jarod Killian's picture

I wouldn't be shocked if Anthony Joshua wins the rematch. If he's going to win he will have to fight a very boring boxing match where he'll use his height and reach advantage and basically stick and move for twelve rounds, don't look for the knock out, just jab/cross/clinch/ref breaks/get your distance again/rinse and repeat and just coast thru to a very boring the fights will be booing all night UD win. Hey, a win is a win. However, the way he lost the first fight it is very iffy to me if he'll be able to do that for 12 rounds. I think he'll do well for the first few rounds but just like the first fight Ruiz will come on strong, pressure him, and Joshua folds again. If I had to bet, I'd go with Andy Ruiz Jr getting a stoppage in the mid rounds perhaps a round or two earlier than the first fight.

Champion97's picture

Do you want to be in the prediction competition?

Jarod Killian's picture

Sure. How does it work?

Champion97's picture

Here is the vault.
August

24/Russia
Sergey Kovalev vs Anthony Yarde
Aleksei Papin vs Ilunga Makabu

24/Mexico
Juan Francisco Estrada vs Dewayne Beamon
Shakhram Giyasov vs Darleys Perez

24/Texas
Brandon Figueroa vs Javier Chacon

31/London
Vasyl Lomachencko vs Luke Campbell
Alexander Povetkin vs Hughie Fury

31/Australia
Jeff Horn vs Michael Zerafa

31/Minnesota
Peter Quillin vs Caleb Truax II
Erislandy Lara vs Ramon Alvarez

PCOM (Prediction Champion of the Month). There is a vault for each month, you put your prediction down for each fight, and specify UD or MD/SD (MD and SD are worth the same points), or early (1-4), mid (5-8), late (9-12). If you get the outcome right but not the stoppage/decision, you get 2 points, if you call a UD, you get 5 points, call an MD, you get 6, if you get the decision right but the UD/MD wrong, you get 4 points. You get 5 points of you call early/mid/late, 3 if you say early and the fight is stopped late, and 4 if you say mid and it is stopped late. If you call a draw, you get 7 points, in 18 months, nobody has ever called a draw. Any questions?

You can join this month if you want, you are behind, but you have a fair shot next month if you join at the start.

Jarod Killian's picture

Okay. Very well then, I'm in.

Here are my pics:

Anthony Yarde mid
Aleksei Papin early

Juan Francisco Estrada MD/SD
Shakhram Giyasov mid

Brandon Figueroa mid

Vasyl Lomachencko UD
Hughie Fury UD

Jeff Horn late

Caleb Truax UD
Erislandy Lara early

Champion97's picture

Prediction,

Joshua was a heavy favourite last time, maybe a heavier favourite than he should've been, I don't know that the odds are, but the rematch seems to be more of a 50/50 fight.

It was a bad loss for Joshua, concussed, down 4 times, and the fact that it was an upset probably adds to the defeat, you have to question his confidence. Ruiz knows for sure now, he can take Joshua's power, he knows he can recover quickly when he is hurt, and he knows he has the power to hurt Joshua bad, and Joshua can't recover like he can.

On the other hand, Joshua admitted he wasn't fully focused on Ruiz, he certainly is now, he seems to have found the perfect balance between rushing back into training and taking too much time off, and after making history, Ruiz's life has changed, and you have to question whether he is more hungry, more motivated now, or if he's got too civilized.

Parker said Ruiz was the hardest puncher he's fought, not everyone believed him, but Ruiz stopped Joshua, backed up what Parker said. Joshua is a puncher, that's always been clear, but he doesn't have the power of an Earnie Shavers. Ruiz's record doesn't suggest his power is anything special, I don't think he's the hardest hitter in boxing, but I think he has underrated power. Who hits harder is an interesting question, but I think Joshua has a slight power edge.

I think Ruiz has the fastest hands in the heavyweight division, he is very explosive, he is patient, can get past the reach of a taller fighter and throw a fast, accurate combination, similar to Tyson, and he is a good body puncher. Although Joshua doesn't have Ruiz's hand speed, I still think his hand speed is underrated, he has a great right uppercut, and he is a counter puncher. I think Ruiz has more of an offensive arsenal than Joshua, but Joshua's right uppercut is the best shot either of them has.

I think Joshua is the much fundamentally better boxer, and when he gets behind his jab, like he did against Parker, he's hard to beat. Before Joshua put Ruiz down and got reckless, he was boxing well, the jab was landing, setting up the right hand and keeping Ruiz at range. I don't think Ruiz is anywhere near as good an outside fighter as Joshua, and he can't out box him.

Whether Joshua will be the same after the loss, physically and mentally, is questionable. I think with the adjustments Joshua will make in camp, what he's learned, he will improve if he isn't shot after the Ruiz loss, but if that defeat ruined his career, he will obviously be worse, so I think Joshua has to either get better or worse, and this fight should answer that question.

I don't think the weight Ruiz carried in the first fight was good or bad for him, he was supposed to be slightly lighter for this fight, but he weighed in over 10lbs heavier for the rematch. Last time, Ruiz had hand speed, he got off the deck to put his opponent down twice in the same round, was consistent, and he didn't seem gassed after the last knockdown, so conditioning wasn't an issue for him. Ruiz's foot speed would've benefited if he was lighter, which would've helped him get to the target more quickly.

Joshua is 10lbs lighter for the rematch than the first fight, he won't be as physically strong, Ruiz will be able to push him back more easily, but as long as the weight loss hasn't drained him, his stamina will be a lot better than last time. I don't know why Ruiz is so heavy, could be for a few reasons, but the best case scenario for him is that he has a strength advantage, but if it's bad weight, he won't be stronger, his overall conditioning will be worse, and either way, he won't have the stamina he had last time.

I think Joshua would have won the first fight if he hadn't got reckless after dropping Ruiz, I don't think Ruiz can beat Joshua without Joshua making the mistakes he needs him to make, and I think this time, Joshua won't give away his reach as he did in rounds 3 and 7 of the first fight, and that's the main reason I think Joshua wins this fight.

I think Joshua will control the early rounds with his jab, keep it basic, and Ruiz won't be able to get past the jab despite being a fighter who does that well, because Joshua will be focused, land either the counter jab or the double jab, and he will do a great job of keeping the fight at long range. I think Joshua will land power shots, but every power shot he throws will be set up by the jab.

I think Ruiz will come on in the mid rounds, whenever he can corner Joshua, he can cut the distance, throw a fast combination, and I don't think Joshua can stop Ruiz working on the inside, so I think if Joshua either tries to fight in the pocket, or tries to clinch, that's a mistake, because he is much less durable than Ruiz, not as good an inside fighter, and Ruiz doesn't lunge in, doesn't load up, he throws shots at the right time. Joshua has to keep using the ring, needs lateral movement.

I think Joshua will have a fairly decisive lead after 8 rounds, but the late rounds will be important, it is hard to predict who will be more tired, because Joshua will have had to move a lot, and will have thrown more shots than Ruiz, but Ruiz will have taken a lot more clean punches, walked into a lot of jabs. I think Ruiz will hurt Joshua late, he won't have a lot in the tank, but neither will Joshua, I think Joshua will get on his bike if he gets hurt, stay off the ropes, keep jabbing, try to survive, but to do that, he will need every bit of fitness he has. I think the late rounds will be close.

I think Joshua wins by UD, and it won't be close, not necessarily one sided, a competitive fight, but I think the early rounds will be the main difference.

MattDixon's picture

Well this is the most important fight for heavyweight boxing in a while

Ruiz in the first fight showed Joshua's weaknesses, the doubts that many people had, the flaws in Joshua's game, but we have to remember 2 things going into this fight. 1) joshua got the first knockdown in the first fight whilst comfortably ahead in the first 2 rounds. 2) ruiz hasn't got anywhere near the high level experience Joshua had. Ruiz has beat some decent names, dimitryenko, johnson. Had a close fight againest parker that many people thought he won (I thought parker won). So on paper Joshua should smash him, but I believe every heavyweight has a bogeyman in boxing and ruiz is looking to be Joshua's at the minute.

Joshua is young, still on his prime, looking leaner than the first fight which I think is a positive. If joshua wants to win this fight he will have to make it boring, like he did against parker, but I think ruiz may be too good at closing the distance for that to happen, even before the "lucky punch from the gods" ruiz was getting in the pocket and throwing some decent shots. Joshua made an amature mistake in the first fight by rushing in after the knockdown thinking the fight was finished and throwing overly committed hooks without worrying about the counter punches. He cant do that again.

This is a hard one to pick for me. I could understand any prediction someone gives. But I'm going with andy ruiz by 5th round tko. At the time Joshua will be ahead 3 to 2 or 4 to 1 rounds but will get caught with an overhand right and will begin to lose his confidence and fall apart.i hope I'm wrong though

Gold's picture

Money has come in on Ruiz, opened at +275, down to +165

MattDixon's picture

Might stick some money on myself then if thats the case

Gold's picture

Wow AJ 237 lbs, 10 lbs lighter than the first fight and his lightest since 2014. Ruiz 283 lbs, 15 lbs heavier than the first fight and his heaviest since 2009. Ruiz weighed in clothed and had a sombrero on but still looks good for Joshua. Didn't expect him to come in that light.

SalTnutZ1's picture

Wonder if Ruiz knew that Joshua would be a lot lighter, so he went heavy to be able to muscle inside easier. Interested to see how the lines on this one move following the weigh in.

I'm pretty sure the inside work won't be a factor at all in this fight because : "nobody throw! nobody throw"

Champion97's picture

I wonder if 237 might be too light, maybe not, and if he isn't drained, that's great for his stamina, shocked Ruiz is that heavy, his feet will be slow at 283, should make it easier for Joshua to stay out of Ruiz's range.

Gold's picture

Champ, can I change to Joshua KO/TKO 9-12?

Champion97's picture

No problem.

Awful fight

Guy Incognito's picture

Agreed.

A breeze for AJ. Ruiz had no plan other than hope he caught AJ with a big shot. Very very poor from him and his camp. Now - Wilder/Fury winner vs AJ NEEDS to happen next. No more delays, no more excuses!

Yup I want Undisputed.

Champion97's picture

Not for the purists it wasn't.

Glad you enjoyed it.

Champion97's picture

Sorry you didn't, but I'm sure you enjoyed Spence vs Porter, Golovkin vs Derevyanchenko, Taylor vs Prograis, Inoue vs Donaire, this has been a great year for great fights in boxing, aside from this fight.

MattDixon's picture

Had one hell of a year haven't we mate

Champion97's picture

I've been following boxing since 2011, and from Spence vs Porter to Inoue vs Donaire, I don't I've ever seen so many good fights in a short space of time, I think Lopez vs Commey will be the best fight of the remainder of the year.

MattDixon's picture

Only seen commey fight once and he looked very good. Never seen much of this Lopez lad before. Seen a highlights video of him and he looked decent. Think commey wins a UD

I did and I agree.

I kind of regret posting the initial comment. There was really no point to it..oh well.

MattDixon's picture

Clinical boxing at its finest

Champion97's picture

I thought this was an easy fight to score, round 4 was a tough one to score, but I thought all the other rounds were clear.

Great performance from Joshua, that was the best he's ever boxed, he has improved a lot in the last 2 years, the Klitschko fight was the experience he needed, was the making of him, and he is still in his prime despite the damage he took against Ruiz the first time. I don't think Ruiz was at his best, he shouldn't have gone off the wagon so much after the first fight, should have started camp lighter, his feet were slower than normal, he couldn't rally or even pick it up in the late rounds, but he still had a full camp, was made to look worse than he was. I don't think Joshua beat the best Ruiz, but Ruiz didn't beat the best Joshua either.

I thought 237 might have been too light for Joshua, but it wasn't, he wasn't drained at all, had great stamina, his movement was great, sustained it for 12 rounds, and easily sustained his work rate as well. Joshua's jab was great, fast, accurate, and it set up the right hand, he landed the single left hook or right hand, and settled for the single shot, didn't try to knock Ruiz out, which would have given Ruiz more of a chance, he got back to his jab, didn't go back in straight lines, used the ring, used lateral movement, Ruiz couldn't get to him.

I don't think there will be a trilogy, I think Joshua will take a tune up against Pulev next year, I believe Pulev is the IBF mandatory, and even aside from that fight, I think Ruiz was disappointing, and didn't earn a third fight even being the champion and it being 1-1, having said that, he still made history with his win the first time, he can come again. I think Joshua vs the winner of Wilder vs Fury II is the biggest fight in heavyweight boxing since the 90s.

MattDixon's picture

People will say its boring. I think it was beautiful, all this shit "aj retire" "aj is cashing out" "aj is just a bodybuilder" all this keyboard warrior slop, hearing it all almost effected my opinion, but then aj boxing beautifully and just imagine the faces of them haters, it was almost like watching lomachenko outbox someone just by the amount of dominance. Beautiful performance by aj and so satisfying to watch. Fuck all them doubters haha

Champion97's picture

You remind me of myself Matt, my advice is, ignore keyboard warriors, they will always be about, will always talk shit, won't change, they don't want to learn about boxing.

Guy Incognito's picture

Actually, you remind me of a keyboard warrior, but okay.

Champion97's picture

I can't take you seriously bro, sorry if I upset you, but everything I said was true, I understand you are angry with me, if saying I'm a keyboard warrior makes you feel better, I don't have a problem with that, I'm not letting you waste my time with any more gish gallop arguments, this website is for boxing discussions only, I'm more than happy to have a boxing discussion with anyone, yourself included, but dodging questions is poor debating, and that's one of the reasons why so little of our past discussion has been boxing related.

MattDixon's picture

I understand what you mean about guy incognito now mate haha

Guy Incognito's picture

I am not upset by you, nor am I angry at you, and I am not dodging questions, either. I just have little respect for your outbursts. I do respect your boxing knowledge and your experience on this site, but not the way you react and respond to my comments.

Also, so much for your previous reply being your last post to me. Just saying . . .

Guy Incognito's picture

While I wouldn't call Joshua's performance beautiful or satisfying to watch, I agree that the claims that 'AJ should retire' and is 'just a body builder' sound like nonsense. However, I still think that the fight was boring to watch. It almost looks to me as if Joshua is beginning to turn into Wladimir Klitschko.

MattDixon's picture

Guy incognito, he only fought like this because he knew coming in he was gonna get knocked out if he brawled with ruiz, even if hes hurt like in the first fight

Trust me hes not gonna ruin hw boxing for a whole decade mate.

MattDixon's picture

I think Joshua loses to wilder but beats fury.

Guy Incognito's picture

I disagree. I think Fury beats Joshua.

MattDixon's picture

Thing is with that. Fury couldn't avoid Wilders right hand for 12 rounds and only just got out by the skin of his teeth. With joshua, he can technically box with the power to knock furys lights off. If fury cant avoid Wilders (named appropriately) wild right hands then he cant avoid the power and technique of Joshua for the 12, hes not gonna ko Joshua we know that, but Joshua can ko him with his right hand at any point. With the chin of fury, fighting joshua is like fighting wilder, but with better technique.

Gold's picture

You aren't accounting for Joshua being much stiffer and more predictable than Wilder. Fury boxed Wlad easily who arguably perfected the style Joshua used versus Ruiz in their rematch. Wlad had faster feet than Joshua as well and couldn't catch up to Fury. Doesn't mean Joshua can't win but it is a bad style matchup for him. The straight right of Wilder isn't wild, watch the Breazeale fight and the Ortiz rematch. It is extremely fast and hard to get out of the way, Joshua doesn't throw punches like Wilder and vice versa. Fury obviously has good recovery if not a good chin, he's the only person we've seen take this version of Wilder's power and get up.

MattDixon's picture

Yes, but joshua doesn't need to box like he did against ruiz, wilder is a sniper who picks his opponents off at range, this time Joshua can close the distance and rough fury up on the inside. Joshua could back fury up and unload combinations at him, unlike wilder could because wilder isn't a combination puncher.

Gold's picture

Can he close the distance? Can he back Fury up? Those can't be assumed given Fury's footwork versus Joshua's and Fury's overall elusiveness. Fury could end up turning Joshua like Joshua turned Ruiz. I agree that if Joshua fights Wilder or Fury he shouldn't try to box them like he did Ruiz, especially versus Wilder he's asking to be knocked out doing that.

MattDixon's picture

Yeah he can, shwartz was able to back fury up (although he couldn't hit him haha) so if he can do it AJ can. AJ is smart enough to be able to cut the ring off and force fury into a stand and trade. If he tries to technically box them fury would out point him, but if he turns it to a rough fight he will come out on top.

Gold's picture

Completely different scenario, Fury is known for fighting to the level of his opposition and didn't take Schwarz seriously as an opponent. You are assuming he can cut the ring and force trades but it is hard to say that he can do that.

MattDixon's picture

Ik I'm assuming that as I believe that is what will happen. Your also assuming that fury is able to keep out of Joshua's range and can technically outbox him from a far. I believe that fury will struggle to keep the range with Joshua.

Gold's picture

I have seen Fury beat that style before versus a very known quantity, so that's why I am saying it. It wouldn't surprise me if Joshua had some success but it is a very uphill battle for him versus Fury because Joshua's feet aren't as fast as Fury's. Ruiz had terribly slow feet which I think may have overinflated how effective Joshua is with that style.

MattDixon's picture

Alright gold let's just leave it here as we are clearly gonna just go back and fourth for no reason here. Joshua is fast enough to get into furys range imo. Many others have done it, so I think Joshua can get in and land flurrys of punches, I respect that you think fury wins and I understand, i just dont see it

Gold's picture

Hopefully, Joshua fights the winner of Wilder vs. Fury II because fans deserve that. I don't have a lot of faith though considering the mandatory situations for Joshua's belts

MattDixon's picture

Well Joshua has 2 mandatories. The one he doesnt fight I think hes getting striped of that belt, I like that, moves the division

Gold's picture

Probably going to fight Pulev for the IBF mandatory in the Spring because Usyk vs. Chisora is in house for Matchroom. Then Joshua vs. Usyk in the fall