Adrien Broner vs Jessie Vargas

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Adrien Broner vs Jessie Vargas
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4
Average: 4 (2 votes)

Date: 
Saturday, April 21, 2018
Location: 
Barclays Center, Brooklyn, New York, New York, USA
Rounds Scheduled: 
12
Contracted Weight: 
144

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Adrien Broner
                                                                    
9
9
9
9.33
9.50
9.16
9.66
9.50
10
10
9
9.50
Jessie Vargas
                                                                    
10
10
10
9.66
9.50
9.83
9.33
9.50
9
9
10
9.50


Fan Cards: Adrien Broner vs Jessie Vargas


scorecard by ENDOFME1994
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ADRIEN BRONER
9
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
10
113
JESSIE VARGAS
10
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
9
115


scorecard by FLOYD TOUGH COMPETITOR MAYWEATHER
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ADRIEN BRONER
9
9
9
10
9
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
114
JESSIE VARGAS
10
10
10
9
10
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
114


scorecard by GOLD
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ADRIEN BRONER
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
111
JESSIE VARGAS
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
117


scorecard by HAGLERGOAT
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ADRIEN BRONER
9
9
9
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
113
JESSIE VARGAS
10
10
10
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
10
115


scorecard by MIKE25
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ADRIEN BRONER
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
10
10
10
9
10
113
JESSIE VARGAS
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
9
9
9
10
9
115


scorecard by BOXING KNOWLEDGE
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ADRIEN BRONER
9
9
9
10
10
9
9
10
10
10
9
10
114
JESSIE VARGAS
10
10
10
9
9
10
10
9
9
9
10
9
114


scorecard by ZAC.RJ
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ADRIEN BRONER
9
9
9
9
9
9
10
9
10
10
9
9
111
JESSIE VARGAS
10
10
10
10
10
10
9
10
9
9
10
10
117


scorecard by SALTNUTZ1
Round
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
Total
ADRIEN BRONER
9
9
9
9
10
9
10
10
10
10
9
10
114
JESSIE VARGAS
10
10
10
10
9
10
9
9
9
9
10
9
114


Comments

Gold's picture

I think this will be a really good fight! I am very happy Showtime and PBC were able to find a really quality replacement for Omar Figueroa after he pulled out versus Adrien Broner. I would argue this is actually an upgrade to the Broner vs. Figueroa fight. Personally, I think this is a fight both guys can win but I will give Jessie Vargas the 65/35 edge. In general, I think Vargas is too big and too quality for Broner.

I don’t think there will be any notable outside factors in this fight. It is at the Barclays Center in New York City like most of Showtime’s cards. Broner is pretty disliked and doesn’t have the most fan-friendly style so perhaps Vargas will get the crowd’s backing. Some people say Broner has had some dodgy judging in the past such as versus Paulie Malignaggi but I think if the judging hurts anyone it will be Broner because of his low output.

For Broner, this is probably his third “last stand” at relevance. He is 28 but he turned professional at 18 and is considered a known quantity. He is only 5’6 with a 69 inch reach, not optimal at all considering this fight will be at a 144 pound catchweight. Broner had a very good amateur career with over 300 bouts and best placing in the semi-finals at the 2005 Junior Olympics. To have success, Broner wants to be able to land big power counter punches from his Philly shell defense. Early in his career, Broner had a lot of success with this. Below Super Lightweight, Broner had really good power and consistently imposed it on his opponents. He beat some quality opponents decisioning Daniel Ponce De Leon, knocking out Antonio DeMarco, and decisioning Paulie Malignaggi. Going into his fight with Marcos Maidana, Broner was considered a pound for pound level fighter by many as an undefeated three weight champion. Maidana got inside, worked the body and head extremely well and ultimately humiliated and dropped Broner twice. Maidana at this point was an extremely good fighter who arguably should have gotten a draw versus Floyd Mayweather in his very next fight, but this loss signaled the downfall of Broner. Since losing to Maidana, he has beat the lower level opposition he has faced with differing degrees of success and became a four weight champion, but failed against the two world class opponents he has had in Shawn Porter and Mikey Garcia, who both cleanly decisioned Broner albeit Broner was able to knock down Porter. The biggest problem Broner has had recently is his poor ring IQ, low punch output, and out of ring discipline which has lead him to have poor conditioning, in turn causing him to miss weight.

For Vargas, this is his first step up after his long layoff in 2017. He also had a good amateur career with 140 bouts and two junior national championships. He is a good sized Welterweight at 5’10 with a 71 inch reach and theoretically still in his prime at 28. Vargas isn’t the most sophisticated boxer in the world but he has good fundamentals, a come forward style and ability to punch in combination. In his time at Super Lightweight he won the WBA title from Khabib Allakhverdiev and most notably defended it against Antonio Demarco, two opponents Broner also beat. Vargas lost to Timothy Bradley, at the time a very good opponent, but rebounded by knocking Sadam Ali to win the vacant WBO Welterweight title out before losing to an aging Manny Pacquiao. After that, he was inactive for over a year and came back in a tune up fight against Aaron Herrera. Vargas’s biggest problem is that he isn’t the most skilled or powerful boxer in the world, he can be outboxed which was shown in his defeats to Bradley and Pacquiao.

I think Vargas will win this fight. For Broner to win, he first of all has to show up in good shape physically and mentally. I don’t trust Broner to win big fights at all anymore, he just doesn’t seem to have his head in boxing. If Broner is to win, he is going to have to make Vargas respect his power and slow him down. Vargas has a good motor and will certainly out throw Broner unless Broner can do this. Broner needs to use his technical skill to win because if Vargas can fight the fight he wants, Broner will simply get outpointed by the volume of Vargas which I believe Vargas will be able to do.

This is an interesting fight to think about the potential opportunities for each fighter if they should win. If Broner wins, this win and his name brand likely puts him right back in position as a title contender versus fellow PBC fighters Keith Thurman and Errol Spence. If Vargas wins, I am not as sure that gets him directly to a title shot. He has been talked about as an opponent for Thurman as a tune-up before but he doesn’t have as much upside as Broner. A win here certainly helps him get closer to another title shot though. If Broner loses, I think this may be the final nail in the coffin for his career. He can beat lower level opponents just through his skill but I don’t think he will have the will to continue doing that. If Vargas loses, I think he can rebound at the contender level. Someone who has solid fundamentals like him will be a tough opponent and can get wins at that level, potentially building him back up to a title shot.

Champion97's picture

Prediction,

Awesome match up.
Very interesting fight this one, should be fun to watch as well.
I definitely think is is a real 50/50 fight.

For a prediction, this is particularly interesting because of the catchweight. If this was at 140, I would definitely predict Broner to win, if it was happening at 147, I would say Vargas, but what about 144?

There is certainly an argument to be made, that Vargas has a mental edge, whether or not that is the case is an interesting question, and the answer is important in the fight, but whether or not mentality, psychological stability is important, is not a question by any means.

You could argue that Broner wins this because,

- Broner has been in more world title fights
- Broner and Vargas have both beaten Antonio DeMarco and Khabib Allakhverdiev, Broner stopped them both, well ahead at the time of the stoppages, Vargas didn't stop either and lost a good few rounds to both
- Broner is the naturally more dangerous
- There is an argument Vargas may not have deserved the decision against Josesito Lopez, Khabib Allakhverdiev
- It is likely Broner has the better chin
- Broner may have more attributes, more strengths than Vargas

On the other hand,

- Vargas is much taller, naturally bigger than Broner
- Vargas is coming off a confidence building win, Broner is coming off a discouraging defeat and there is no reason to question Vargas's mental stability, the same can't necessarily be said for Broner
- Vargas lost to Bradley and Pacquiao, but in neither fight did he take anything like the beating Broner took against Marcos Maidana, and in neither fight was he humiliated, outclassed to the extent that Broner was against Mikey Garcia
- There is an argument Broner may not have deserved the decision against Fernando Quintero, Daniel Ponce De Leon, Adrian Granados
- Vargas's win over Sadam Ali, may be the best win out of all the victories between both fighters
- It is likely Broner has more flaws, more weaknesses than Vargas

I think you can find more reasons to favour Broner than Vargas, but I also think there are a couple of better, more relevant reasons why Vargas will win, than Broner, for example, Broner, the more fights, more achievements at different weight classes, more amateur experience, more professional fights, he is probably the slightly more talented, there are more reasons, but Vargas is far naturally better suited to compete at anything over 140, he is a lot taller than Broner, probably a lot physically stronger, that could be a crucial factor, and if Vargas is mentally in a better place, is more motivated, more determined to win, that can negate a lot of the things Broner has on his side.

Both these guys are 28, so really, they should both be in their primes, I think Vargas certainly is, Broner, physically probably is as well, but if your half-ass boxing (even if you train hard, genuinely believe you are as driven as you used to be, but find yourself wanting come fight time) and you can't get that motivation back for whatever reason, then you can not use any physical advantages and attributes. There is no evidence that Broner is going to seriously struggle mentally, nothing to strongly suggest so, but it is certainly worth questioning his mental state.

I think this will go the distance, it will be probably be very close, I would be surprised if one of them isn't raising their hand after the final bell. I think if it is really close, Broner might get the decision, Vargas has also gotten decisions before that some people didn't agree with, so it would not be at all surprising if he gets the benefit of the doubt.

Gun to my head, I think I'll say Broner, MD. I'm 50-55% sure Broner wins this fight, but it is a very tough one to call.

Champion97's picture

Predictions

Floyd Mayweather Sr - Vargas
Badou Jack - Vargas
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad - Vargas
Robert Garcia - Vargas
Tim Bradley - Vargas
Jeff Mayweather - Vargas
Kofi Jantuah - Vargas
Andrew Tabiti - Vargas
Mike Leanardi - Vargas
Latondria Jones - Vargas
Anthony Martin - Vargas
Justin Mayweather - Vargas
Fernando Vargas - Vargas
David Benavidez - Broner
Bones Adams - Vargas
Michael Hunter - Draw
Joe Cortez - Vargas
Emmanuel Medina - Vargas
Ibn Cason - Draw
Ashley Theophane - Draw
Stacy Mayweather - Vargas

Lanell Bellows - Draw
Brandon Krause - Vargas

Broner: 1
Vargas: 18
Draw: 4

Prediction:
Jessie Vargas wins this one by Majority Decision